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more bidding
#1
Posted 2013-June-08, 15:24
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Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#2
Posted 2013-June-08, 15:56
speak it would be unwise to enter the fray here with essentially
a balanced minimum opening hand
pass
#3
Posted 2013-June-08, 18:42
#4
Posted 2013-June-08, 22:14
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#5
Posted 2013-June-08, 23:52
2. Weird. I wasn't expecting this at all. I hate my ♠K. Meh pass.
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#6
Posted 2013-June-09, 01:30
#7
Posted 2013-June-09, 07:57
Roland
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More system is not the answer...
#8
Posted 2013-June-09, 09:11
jillybean, on 2013-June-08, 22:14, said:
I still pass. If partner has, say, 1633 shape, he doesn't need much in high card to balanced 4♥, and 5♥ isn't safe opposite x Qxxxxx AQx Axx. If I were to make a slam try, it would be 5♥, and I don't even begin to understand any other bid.
#9
Posted 2013-June-09, 11:23
cherdano, on 2013-June-09, 09:11, said:
It depends on how you define "safe". If what you meant was %100 safe, obviously it isn't.
You see this as "not safe 5♥", someone else may say it is %50 slam. (Regardless of who holds the ♠ A) You will know how to play spades if the lead is ♠ Q
I wish all my 5 level contracts were as safe as this one.
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#10
Posted 2013-June-09, 11:31
The auction and hands..
EW cashed their 2 Aces.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#11
Posted 2013-June-09, 11:40
jillybean, on 2013-June-09, 11:31, said:
The auction and hands..
EW cashed their 2 Aces.
This is perhaps a matter of agreement. It seems clear that South intended 5♥ as a quantitative try and North interpreted 5♥ as asking for a spade control.
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#12
Posted 2013-June-09, 11:40
MrAce, on 2013-June-09, 11:23, said:
You see this as "not safe 5♥", someone else may say it is %50 slam. (Regardless of who holds the ♠ A) You will know how to play spades if the lead is ♠ Q
I wish all my 5 level contracts were as safe as this one.
Oops, I somehow put the preemptor on my left when I wrote this post.
But in any case, to make slam better than on a finesse, partner (with 1633 shape) will need 4 cards out of the following 5 cards: ♠A, ♦AKQ, ♣A. In my view, he just needs 3 out of these 5 to bid (and sometimes just 2, as shown by the actual deal), and a priori he is much much more likely to have 3 out of 5 than 4 out of 5. So I think the odds are REALLY against slam being good.
#13
Posted 2013-June-09, 11:47
awm, on 2013-June-09, 11:40, said:
I would have interpreted 5♥ as 'bid 6 if your trumps are solid', is this the standard meaning?
This is not a hand I played but I do know NS do not have extensive slam agreements.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#14
Posted 2013-June-09, 12:03
cherdano, on 2013-June-09, 11:40, said:
But in any case, to make slam better than on a finesse, partner (with 1633 shape) will need 4 cards out of the following 5 cards: ♠A, ♦AKQ, ♣A. In my view, he just needs 3 out of these 5 to bid (and sometimes just 2, as shown by the actual deal), and a priori he is much much more likely to have 3 out of 5 than 4 out of 5. So I think the odds are REALLY against slam being good.
I was not suggesting to make a move, though i think it is close decision and depends on behaviors of your pd. For example if pd is "The Hog" , i am just blasting slam w/o inviting
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#15
Posted 2013-June-09, 12:43
ahydra
#17
Posted 2013-June-09, 15:03
#18
Posted 2013-June-09, 16:44
campboy, on 2013-June-09, 14:16, said:
We would conveniently bid 6NT when it is right and 6♥ when it is right
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#19
Posted 2013-June-09, 18:18
jillybean, on 2013-June-08, 22:14, said:
Too bad RKC is out of fashion ... you could stop at 5H missing 2 key cards . ( I see ahydra asked about using RKC ) .
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