Assign the blame
#1
Posted 2013-April-09, 11:29
North held: ♠Kxx, ♥AKxx, ♦Axx, ♣Axx
South held: ♠Qx, ♥x, ♦xx, ♣KQJxxxxx
West opens 1♠, the bidding went:
(1♠) - 1NT - pass - 5♣.
A slam is missed. Who should take more blame?
#2
Posted 2013-April-09, 11:37
#3
Posted 2013-April-09, 11:51
also north does have perfect cards.
#4
Posted 2013-April-09, 12:03
-gwnn
#5
Posted 2013-April-09, 13:00
#8
Posted 2013-April-09, 15:43
Even if I ask, after one key card is missing, could I expect he had 3 Aces+2 Kings?
#9
Posted 2013-April-09, 18:04
#10
Posted 2013-April-10, 01:07
I would blame South: He has 7 1/2 tricks opposite a strong NT. I had bid "Gerber" before I had just blast 5 ♣, but I had been able to bid 2 ♠ with all of my partners...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#11
Posted 2013-April-10, 01:23
Codo, on 2013-April-10, 01:07, said:
Unlikely to bid 5C with QX X XXX KQJXXXX. Must have the eighth club or an outside K.
#12
Posted 2013-April-10, 03:27
HeartA, on 2013-April-09, 11:29, said:
North held: ♠Kxx, ♥AKxx, ♦Axx, ♣Axx
South held: ♠Qx, ♥x, ♦xx, ♣KQJxxxxx
West opens 1♠, the bidding went:
(1♠) - 1NT - pass - 5♣.
A slam is missed. Who should take more blame?
North. He could have started with a double or he could have raised to 6 with his perfect hand.
Steven
#13
Posted 2013-April-10, 04:36
aguahombre, on 2013-April-10, 01:23, said:
He must? You find a 2137 hand unlikely for this bidding, but a hand so strong normal. I disagree. With the given hand I can simply ask for aces and base my slam descission on the answer. No need to play a guessing game with partner..
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#14
Posted 2013-April-10, 08:04
Codo, on 2013-April-10, 04:36, said:
Not familiar with ace-asking while holding QX and XX in two suits with no certainty pard has controls in those. Sometimes, partner figures out she has super controls all by herself and takes a guess that I have the tricks for my bid.
#15
Posted 2013-April-10, 10:07
Codo, on 2013-April-10, 04:36, said:
Not guaranteed with 8 ♣. But with North's hand, it is a "must“ to raise to 6♣. If it fails, it would be South to blame. From South's perspective, swith of position of an Ace would be no slam. By the way, West (1♠ opener) did lead a ♦.
Start to ask? Would you expect, or image that North had such a pure, more than maximum hand (hcp wise, 1NT can be 18)? Tell me how would you ask and bid slam.
#16
Posted 2013-April-10, 11:58
#17
Posted 2013-April-10, 15:14
#18
Posted 2013-April-11, 03:52
HeartA, on 2013-April-09, 11:29, said:
HeartA, on 2013-April-09, 15:43, said:
As an expert, you should know to take some of the blame here. In a first time partnership, any given South might even be bidding 5♣ as a preempt - you just do not know in those circumstances and there were options for South to take things more slowly when slam is in the picture.
#19
Posted 2013-April-11, 04:02