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Opener's rebid

Poll: Your bid... (33 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid...

  1. Dbl (26 votes [78.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.79%

  2. 1NT (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  3. 2H (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  4. 2S (3 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  5. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Poky 

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  Posted 2004-December-20, 17:56

MP. All love.

Expert partner, no special agreement about support doubles.

♠AK63
♥KQ5
♦6
♣KQ1085

1♣ - pass - 1♥ - 1♠
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What is a typical hand for bidding:
- Dbl
- 1NT
- 2S
- 2NT
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Posted 2004-December-20, 18:24

In Bridge World Standard, you could bid 3H. I would here, even though I dislike it.
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Posted 2004-December-20, 18:47

i'd double...
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Posted 2004-December-20, 20:02

Double. Says I have a good hand with no bid.

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Posted 2004-December-20, 20:24

Double is a support double, usually not as strong as this, but when I bid again partner should get the gag.
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  Posted 2004-December-20, 20:30

Dbl!
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Posted 2004-December-21, 04:06

Dbl : support or strong hand (I have both so no problem ! <_< )
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Posted 2004-December-21, 04:52

Dbl or 3♦...
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Posted 2004-December-21, 06:21

3♦ ?? Are you serious ? <_<
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Posted 2004-December-21, 10:15

presume 3♦ is a splinter raise. I will go for 2♠ to find out more about partner's hand, but x should work out ok too.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 10:27

Splinter raise without a real fit and ruff with big honours !

Not my cup of tea ! :(
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Posted 2004-December-21, 10:47

In competition, splinters are better used to show shortness in opps suit, not in a side suit, so I might venture a splinter if I had spades shortness here, not diamonds singleton.

Whether or not pard plays support double, double stands out as the easier bid, IMO.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 14:35

Double is out of the question for me (those playing support doubles, this works, but this is a very heavy support double and you have to admit you are not passing 2♥ by partner).

1NT looks nice, stregnth right, spades stoppers great, but did you notice the singleton in the unbid suit? Just curious if you did. Despite this, among the choices I like 1NT best.

2♥? Cough.. really, that is a huge underbid.

2NT - nope.

2♠ - about right on stregnth, and you can make a move back towards hearts next, not exactly sure how you will choose between 3NT/4♥/3♥ however.

So the only people with a clear cut bid here are those who play support doubles. They can double then show extra values, perhaps by bidding 2NT over 2♥. One bid not mentioned is pass. It is hard to pass with support and good hand, but here that option is alive due to your long spades, parnter is very likely to reopen as he rates to be short in spades.

Anyway, tough hand for non-support doublers. I would go with 1Nt.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 15:06

1NT seems fair to me as well, although 2/3H comes to mind.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 15:07

inquiry, on Dec 21 2004, 08:35 PM, said:

Double is out of the question for me (those playing support doubles, this works, but this is a very heavy support double and you have to admit you are not passing 2♥ by partner).

1NT looks nice, stregnth right, spades stoppers great, but did you notice the singleton in the unbid suit? Just curious if you did. Despite this, among the choices I like 1NT best.

2♥? Cough.. really, that is a huge underbid.

2NT - nope.

2♠ - about right on stregnth, and you can make a move back towards hearts next, not exactly sure how you will choose between 3NT/4♥/3♥ however.

So the only people with a clear cut bid here are those who play support doubles. They can double then show extra values, perhaps by bidding 2NT over 2♥. One bid not mentioned is pass. It is hard to pass with support and good hand, but here that option is alive due to your long spades, parnter is very likely to reopen as he rates to be short in spades.

Anyway, tough hand for non-support doublers. I would go with 1Nt.

Ben, I think 1N is a huge underbid,it only shows good 13-14HCP.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 15:14

flytoox, on Dec 21 2004, 10:07 PM, said:

Ben, I think 1N is a huge underbid,it only shows good 13-14HCP.

Responder might have bid 1H with 5 points. Bidding a 1NT now should promise a bit more than a min:

1C pass 1H 1S
pass = bal or unbal 11-13 points

1C pass 1H 1S
1NT = bal 14, or unbal 14-16 without a better bid

It is a better usage of steps to split points this way.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 15:24

whereagles, on Dec 21 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

flytoox, on Dec 21 2004, 10:07 PM, said:

Ben, I think 1N is a huge underbid,it only shows good 13-14HCP.

Responder might have bid 1H with 5 points. Bidding a 1NT now should promise a bit more than a min:

1C pass 1H 1S
pass = bal or unbal 11-13 points

1C pass 1H 1S
1NT = bal 14, or unbal 14-16 without a better bid

It is a better usage of steps to split points this way.

good 17 is quite different from 13,14. I would much prefer 2N rather than 1N. This just distort my hand too much.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 15:55

For those of us who play takeout doubles here and raise partner's major freely on three, I like double. Odds are miniscule that partner will leap to 5D and I correct and lower bid to hearts--which should show precisely three trumps and too strong for the single raise.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 23:06

huh? 1n? showing a decent weak NT with spades well stopped? no thx.
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Posted 2004-December-22, 02:51

Jlall, on Dec 22 2004, 12:06 AM, said:

huh? 1n? showing a decent weak NT with spades well stopped? no thx.

Agree with Justin !

I don't understand 1NT here. If you want to bid NT then bid 2NT !

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