[Free]

Funny one from my local club friday night

Scoring: MP

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Opps will be quiet, North starts the bidding (I don't think anyone will pass with that hand). In what contract would you end up?

(history of the hand will be posted later)

[Chamaco]

Free, on Dec 19 2004, 01:45 PM, said:

Funny one from my local club friday night

Scoring: MP

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Opps will be quiet, North starts the bidding (I don't think anyone will pass with that hand). In what contract would you end up?

(history of the hand will be posted later)

1♠:2♦
4♠ all pass

[sceptic]

1S - P - 2D - P -
2S - P - 4S

OR

1S - P - 2D - P -
3S - P - 4S

OR
1S - P - 2D - P -
2S - P - 3D - P -
3S - P - 4S

[sceptic]

may be 3s - p - 4s

[sceptic]

depends on how things are going I may risk 4S opener depends where I am in the bidding and vuln.

this is why I get in so much trouble at the table

[luke warm]

Free, on Dec 19 2004, 03:45 PM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: MP

♠ KQJ9876 ♥ 54 ♦ 6 ♣ A42 ♠ A ♥ A72 ♦ AKJ984 ♣ 976

2s : 2nt
3d : 4c
4s : 5h
5s : pass/6s*

2s=11-16, 6+
2nt=ogust
3d=min/2 tops
4c=cab
4s=first round (Ax or more, not a void)
5h=cab
6s=would be very tempted because of the diamonds, but this would probably end up badly

[mikestar]

However the bidding starts, let's assume North has manged to show a 7 trick hand with good spades.

IF North has AC, and his 6 trump tricks are KQJxxxx then this is a 5 or 7 hand depending on whether you can run the diamonds.

IF North's 6 trump tricks are QJTxxxxx, then slam is unlikely. Slam is doomed if partner is not short in clubs and has 7 trump tricks and no side card or his side card is KH.

I don't mind passing 4S and making lots of overtricks when things go right, though I have some sympathy for blasting to 6S.

In my younger days I would have perpetrated

... 4S - 4N - 5S - 7S

but this will get more bottoms than tops when partner can't show 2 keys and the Queen.

On a version of NAMYATS where the 4D opener would should a solid or one loser suit and some slam values, I like the keycard ask much better--then you are much more likely to get the right answer.

[Chamaco]

mikestar, on Dec 19 2004, 04:44 PM, said:

On a version of NAMYATS where the 4D opener would should a solid or one loser suit and some slam values, I like the keycard ask much better--then you are much more likely to get the right answer.

Most versions of Namyats - regardless of suit quality requirement - require 8 playing trick, so this hand would be 1 trick short.

[hrothgar]

Insufficient tricks for a NAMYATS 4♦
WAY too strong for 2♠ or 3♠
Way too much playing strngth to pass.

1♠ - 2♦ looks like a reasonable start

[Cascade]

mikestar, on Dec 20 2004, 05:44 AM, said:

IF North has AC, and his 6 trump tricks are KQJxxxx then this is a 5 or 7 hand depending on whether you can run the diamonds.

If a heart is lead then only 12 tricks is a possible result:

seven spades, two aces and only three diamond tricks by way of a finesse and if that diamond finesse loses you may end up with only 9 tricks.

[pclayton]

How about:

1♠ (a) - 2♦
2♠ (b ) - 3♥ (c )
4♠ (d) - 5♠ (e)
6♣ (f) - 6♠....(g)

a) . Not enough fro NAMYATS (3N opener)
b ) Suit not quite good enough for a jump
c) 3♦ not forcing; thus phony reverse
d) Now shows a good long suit, probably a minimum
e) Asks for ♣ control; slight chance of catching pard with xxx
f) Q
g) 7 tempting.....

(Q for Ben: do you think 4♠ in this auction should deny a club control and show all strength in ♠/♥/♦?)

Looks like a reasonable slam; needing a non♥ led or ♦ lead.

[Cascade]

Chamaco, on Dec 20 2004, 04:25 AM, said:

Free, on Dec 19 2004, 01:45 PM, said:

Funny one from my local club friday night 

Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: MP

♠ KQJ9876 ♥ 54 ♦ 6 ♣ A42 ♠ A ♥ A72 ♦ AKJ984 ♣ 976

Opps will be quiet, North starts the bidding (I don't think anyone will pass with that hand).  In what contract would you end up?

(history of the hand will be posted later)

1♠:2♦
4♠ all pass

South is too good to pass here IMO.

[Fluffy]

1♠-2♦
2♠-3♦
4♠-???

I have my doubts there, pass is the one that fits me the most, althou I am not very sure.

[whereagles]

My auction:

4♠ pass

Missed 6? Too bad. Next board please.

[luke warm]

that's fine where, but why not at least look?

[Flame]

I think
1S-2D (GF except rebid)
2S -3H
3S- 4S
P
nothing good but since i cant rebid 3d, and i cant cue bid over 3sp (3nt, 4d and 4h seems natural) i have to bid 4sp and i dont think partner can bid more.
If i had 3D forcing it would go
1S-2D
2S-3D
3S-4H (still dont think 4d would be understood as cue here)
5C-5D
5S-???
turbo could be a nice help here.

[han]

I think 1S-2D-4S would be my auction, 4S shows a 7+ self sufficient suit but a minimal hand otherwise.

[Free]

I was sitting South, and feeling comfortable. The bidding went:

4♦* - 4♥**
5♣*** - 7♠

(*) NAMYATS: 7+ card ♠, no void, less than 5 controls, 5-6 losers
(**) modified RKC
(***) 2 keycards with ♠Q

They lead ♠ and I made my contract. In fact, 7♠ was always laydown since ♦s were 3-3 with the Q onside

I opened the little paper to write down our score, and all others were in 4♠, none in 6 or 7! At the previous table, my father and his partner were playing and the round after that, they got to play our boards. Suddenly they started laughing, watched at me, started laughing again . After that round, in the bar they said "unbelievable!". Even in further rounds, every time they looked at me they started to laugh
At the end of the evening, only 1 more pair ended up in 6♠ after an auction 4♠-6♠. Nobody else even tried for (a bit lucky) slam.

[whereagles]

luke warm, on Dec 20 2004, 01:20 AM, said:

that's fine where, but why not at least look?

Look.. what? Do you mean look for slam?

[luke warm]

yes