[flytoox]

2C, then bid s.

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HeartA, on Dec 14 2004, 09:06 PM, said:

I forgot to mention that I was playing with a pick-up pd, who claimed herself as "World Class". We had only played 10 to 20 boards. No gadgets (like raptor, I don't play it anyway) were discussed, except "standard" conventions. This is her holding.

The actual bidding went:

East South West North(me)
1♥ dbl 2♥ 3♥
4♥ pass pass dbl
pass 5♣ pass 5♦

I had ♠KJx, ♥Axx, ♦xxxxx, ♣KT. I corrected 5C to 5D, thinking her hands should be 5-4-3-1 (5♣) or so. The other table played 4S and made 11 tricks. 5C was perfect while 5D went down 2. Who was to blame, and percentage?

I think both 5C and 5D are questionable. Pd should pass 4HX. 3H is kind of waste bid, pd is marked with short heart and I dont think he will have Qx doubleton, he is more likely to have singleton. I like 3D after 2H.

After LHO's 4H, pd is basicly stuck. So i think he should pass ur dbl. IF he wants to bid 5C, he shld do it after 4H immediately.

But again, I wouldnt remove to 5D, broke suit, pd didnt promise fit either.

Always let pd to play what he bids, at least u will win the post-mortem war:)

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inquiry, on Dec 14 2004, 07:45 PM, said:

What I would like to bid is a polish (raptor) 1NT.. if you will not let me, or if my partner doesn't play it, I will bid 2♣.

Ben, I think even play Raptor, perhaps it is better to bid 2C here. IF it is 5c 4s then would be ideal for raptor.

what about 7c 4s? just curious.

[inquiry]

flytoox, on Dec 15 2004, 11:36 AM, said:

inquiry, on Dec 14 2004, 07:45 PM, said:

What I would like to bid is a polish (raptor) 1NT.. if  you will not let me, or if my partner doesn't play it, I will bid 2♣.

Ben, I think even play Raptor, perhaps it is better to bid 2C here. IF it is 5c 4s then would be ideal for raptor.

what about 7c 4s? just curious.

Well, I use raptor whenever I can. I have used raptor with four small cards in a major and seven in the minor, however, I have begun treating four small more like three small and ignoring them as far as raptor goes.

When I play with misho, he uses raptor for hands with more than four in the unbid major... I am not entirely sure this is the right way to go, but I am experimenting with it...... it is not as clear how to bid in compeitive auctions using but it does offere some other advantages.

[aijianhua]

if i have some partnership agreement, I would bid 1♠. otherwise I will bid 2♣, and then bid my spades.

[cf_John0]

HeartA, on Dec 14 2004, 04:06 PM, said:

I forgot to mention that I was playing with a pick-up pd, who claimed herself as "World Class". We had only played 10 to 20 boards. No gadgets (like raptor, I don't play it anyway) were discussed, except "standard" conventions. This is her holding.

The actual bidding went:

East South West North(me)
1♥ dbl 2♥ 3♥
4♥ pass pass dbl
pass 5♣ pass 5♦

I had ♠KJx, ♥Axx, ♦xxxxx, ♣KT. I corrected 5C to 5D, thinking her hands should be 5-4-3-1 (5♣) or so. The other table played 4S and made 11 tricks. 5C was perfect while 5D went down 2. Who was to blame, and percentage?

3H cue-bid after pd's takeout dbl should be blamed.

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aijianhua, on Dec 17 2004, 02:21 AM, said:

if i have some partnership agreement, I would bid 1♠. otherwise I will bid 2♣, and then bid my spades.

I think only if you have convention with pd that you play canape style overcall. Otherwise, it is dangerous. Short heart is a warning sign.