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Do you bid, and what? a hand from last night

#1 User is offline   nikos59 

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Posted 2004-December-14, 01:42

Playing (IMP Pairs) with a BBO friend who is a good player and
a forward bidder, you are vul against not and
LHO opens 3C. This is passed out to you.

A8743
8
KQJ109
102

You don't have any special bids to show 2suiters (assuming
it is feasible to do show in the first place), so your real
options are: pass, dbl, 3D, 3S, or Other [4C??, 3NT???]

Your choice?
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Posted 2004-December-14, 01:47

Pass!
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Posted 2004-December-14, 02:05

3S. Im sure some people will tell you the kind of safety 3D offers, but if im bidding its to get to our game which is most likely in spades.
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Posted 2004-December-14, 03:58

In my opinion, partner has to have a fairly strong hand to bid double or something other. I have to help him sitting in re-open seat. 3 spades!
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Posted 2004-December-14, 04:56

3D .... it's safer (sorry justin, couldn't resist)
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Posted 2004-December-14, 05:07

/me not selling out. 3S :blink:
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Posted 2004-December-14, 06:15

3 leading to our most likely game :blink:
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Posted 2004-December-14, 07:21

Its obvious 3, if I were passed hand.... Oh well I wouldn´t ever pass with this.

4 is the standard method to show +major, but it is slightly stronger than what you have (and its unavaible on the given problem).
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Posted 2004-December-15, 02:11

So, let's see what happened at the table!

I also bid 3S as the majority here suggested, considering
that 4S was the most probable game. The guess was correct
in a sense... but 4S was a possible game for the opponents,
the full hands being:


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     3    Pass  Pass
 3    Pass  Pass  Dbl
 4    Pass  5    Pass
 Pass  Pass  



It is too easy to heap scorn on South's double, a double
that proved doubly disastrous as it affected also the
play (see below). On the other hand, I don't care
for the 3C opening bid. Be as it may, I believed the doubler and
ran to 4D and partner (I told you, a forward bidder)
bid 5D! On a club lead this has no chance whatsoever,
but North, incited by the double of 3S, opted for a
spade lead.

Now it is simple: I won the lead, ruffed a spade,
cashed AK of hearts for a club discard and then
cross-ruffed ad eternam. 11 tricks made.

The traveller revealed a couple of NS pairs making
4S [defence led singleton heart, received ruff,
which was disastrous] or down from 3 to 5 [defence led
diamonds and persisted later in the suit, declarer
was shortened and lost control].

Among the three logical alternatives (3S, 3D, pass)
in theory the best action for West in this deal is to
bid 3D which scores 110. If West were able to peek
at opponents' hands he would avoid 3S at all costs
-but it was this ill-judged bid that led to +600
and 7.4 imps.
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