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8-3 with three in partner's major

#1 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

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Posted 2012-December-28, 15:52


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Posted 2012-December-28, 19:09

4♠ if partner is not a brain dead who might take it as splinter
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Posted 2012-December-28, 19:27

View PostFluffy, on 2012-December-28, 19:09, said:

4♠ if partner is not a brain dead who might take it as splinter ...

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Posted 2012-December-28, 22:21

1♠. Not willing to preempt us out of slam just yet.


I don't know anyone who would think 4♠ was a splinter. Didn't we just have a thread featuring a number of auctions of which 1♥ 4♠ was one, and everybody seemed to agree it was natural. But this hand is too good for that: because of the heart length and the club void.
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Posted 2012-December-28, 23:32

mikeh, could you explain what you're hoping to accomplish with 1♠? I hope this isn't a hijack, but what is your next bid over 1NT/2♣/2♥? How do you plan to handle hearing a large number of ♣/♦ from LHO?
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Posted 2012-December-29, 01:28

View PostAntrax, on 2012-December-28, 23:32, said:

mikeh, could you explain what you're hoping to accomplish with 1♠? I hope this isn't a hijack, but what is your next bid over 1NT/2♣/2♥? How do you plan to handle hearing a large number of ♣/♦ from LHO?

if partner bids 1N or 2 anything, other than 2N or 2♠, then I bid 4♠ and don't understand why that should seem difficult to understand.

But if partner, for example, rebids 2N, then I will transfer to spades and make a slam try thereafter.

If LHO bids clubs or diamonds, then I lose out IF rho can bounce to the 5-level and IF LHO was passing a direct 4♠, neither of which is a certainty.

I have seen 12 and even 13 card fits, by the way. Sure, many such hands for opener can move over 4♠, but I want to be in slam opposite Axx AKxxx AJx xx but not Axx AKxxx xx AJx, as some examples.

IMO, most hands are going to end up in 4♠, but by bidding 1♠ I increase the chances of bidding to a good slam while avoiding a bad one at a cost of somewhat increasing the chances of the opps forcing me to the 5-level (not over 5♦, but definitely over 5♣),
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Posted 2012-December-30, 16:29

4 ♠ showing long spades and little else. Partner's ♥ cards will be useful at your ♠ contract, but there is no way to know if your ♠ cards will be useful to pard at all.
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