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#1 User is offline   cargobeep 

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Posted 2012-November-11, 02:27



IMPS. N/S were definitely not vulnerable, don't know about West/East.

Diamonds makes 6-8 tricks, Spades makes 7-9. Both of these contracts are extremely difficult.

Do you agree with all the bids? What was the worst bid made?
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Posted 2012-November-11, 04:19

I think the main error was North passing over DBL and not bidding 2♣, he had no excuse not to bid it imo, he is coming from pass and auction obviously tells he can't have much for 2♣ bid, this would definetely make south gear down and probably NS would end up defending 3♦ if not 4♦ doubled. South is not blameless either for the last call 4♠, after all his pd passed 1♠. Imo.
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Posted 2012-November-11, 04:32

No doubt 4♠ is the worst bid. You are doubled for penalty in 3♠. Your LHO lets you off the hook by going back to diamonds (where you have excellent defense) and you bid your spades again?!?

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It seems like West made a serious error. He could have added 300 points to the score by pulling to 5♦. This South would certainly have bid 5♠. ;)

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Posted 2012-November-11, 08:28

4♠ is ridicoulous, even if the opponents didn't double you in 3♠ already wich is definetelly the most important sign, defending a partscore with a game is already nonsense.

Don't like:

-North's pass of 1♠X (see Timo's post)
-East's bid of 2♦, 1NT is a better contract specially at MPs
-West's bid of 4♦, removing a penalty double is a bad idea in general, here I see nothing special.
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Posted 2012-November-12, 06:22

This is int. stuff? Sorry, don't think so, this is beginner bidding at all sides of the table...

It is fairly basic:

4 ♠ was beyond words,4 ♦ and the penalty double of 3 ♠ horrible and I dislike 3 ♦ and the pass from north and 2 ♦ from East.
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Posted 2012-November-13, 00:23

I agree with above posters about 4♠, i didnt even see that 3♠ was doubled. I agree with Codo that auction was crazy after first DBL.
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Posted 2012-November-13, 02:25

Reminds me of the post where it went

1N-2H-x-3H
x-4H-x-a.p.

down 1, all 3 doubles were for penalty :)
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Posted 2012-November-13, 07:21

View PostCodo, on 2012-November-12, 06:22, said:

This is int. stuff? Sorry, don't think so, this is beginner bidding at all sides of the table...

Agree, but I don't see where anything was said about international? If that is what you mean by "int. stuff"

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Posted 2012-November-21, 12:27

View Postcargobeep, on 2012-November-11, 02:27, said:

Do you agree with all the bids?

I agree with all the bids up to West's double. I agree with all the bids after South's 4♠. Not sure there are many bids in between that I can agree with...

- North should bid 2♣.
- East shoud bid 1N not 2♦.
- South should bid 2♥ not 2♠.
- 3♠ is bad.
- 4♦ is worse, certainly the worst call of the auction...
- ...except that then there comes 4♠... You aren't expecting to make 4♠, and you have A LOT OF defense against 4♦.
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Posted 2012-November-21, 13:01

I approve of the first 5 bids and the final double.

That leaves 13 that are anywhere from stretching to insane but to avoid a migraine I'll give them 7.69% each.
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