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#1 User is offline   haver 

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Posted 2004-December-05, 18:37

team match and ur side needs to win by a lot

Scoring: IMP


after dealing u r the first to bid - what do u bid?
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Posted 2004-December-05, 18:45

pass and keep passing
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Posted 2004-December-05, 19:08

Even i pass with this hand and my pass button often doesnt work(so say my partners)
"if you fail at your first attempt , maybe skydiving is not for you".
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Posted 2004-December-05, 20:41

haver, on Dec 6 2004, 01:37 PM, said:

team match and ur side needs to win by a lot

Dealer: South
Vul: Both
Scoring: IMP
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after dealing u r the first to bid - what do u bid?

PASS -- if you open in first position on this type of hand HOW in the world will partner EVER trust your bidding (This applies (IMHO) whatever the state of the game - Teams MPs or IMPS :)
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Posted 2004-December-05, 20:47

Vulnerable, a clear pass.

Not vulnerable, a clear 3C, if you preempt sensibly, that is to say frequently.

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Posted 2004-December-05, 20:49

This is not a serious question. Surely this is a pass, rather I need a big win, a small win, any win.
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Posted 2004-December-05, 20:50

pbleighton, on Dec 5 2004, 09:47 PM, said:

Not vulnerable, a clear 3C, if you preempt sensibly, that is to say frequently.

*cringe*
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Posted 2004-December-05, 21:13

jllal writes:

"*cringe*"

Try it, you'll like it :)

It works. I wish the side suit queens weren't there, but you can't have everything.

Plus, you steal the contract frequently, down 1 or 2, or make it. Down more, but the opps have a game.

On the downside, you can play doubled, go down 3 to stop a part score, or preempt yourself out of a game, all rare.

Vul, the penalties are too heavy to bid. Oh, well.

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Posted 2004-December-06, 02:57

If I'm playing a weak 2 in then I'll open that. Otherwise pass.

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Posted 2004-December-06, 13:42

Not vulnerable in third seat I'd have no problem opening 3C, but VUL in first seat definitely not.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2004-December-06, 14:37

Pass. When it comes to opening 3 or 3, I count 4/3/2/1 in the suit, 3/2/1/0.5 outside the suit, 1 for a seventh card and I open with 7-9 of these "mixed" points. Hence, I lack the Q (among other possibilities)
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Posted 2004-December-06, 15:40

pass.... why does everyone want to overbid to gain a swing? Maybe an underbid might work. Certainly, -1400 will not help win the match.

BTW, if you are desperate for a swing, instead of overbidding or underbidding, try taking a non-percentage declarer play. For example, in 4S with trump KJ9x vs Axxx needing no losers, lead the JS and if covered, finesse the 9 on the way back. If that works, you gain 10 IMPs, while risking few % in the play.
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  Posted 2004-December-06, 19:47

Nice shape,pass!
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Posted 2004-December-07, 01:49

I don't think it is an evaluation question,
certainly not a hand evaluation question.
The hand is a clearcut pass at this
vuln.

If you really need to engineer a swing,
then try to open 1NT. And pass partner's
Stayman.
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Posted 2004-December-08, 15:52

PASS

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...try taking a non-percentage declarer play.


Agree.
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Posted 2004-December-08, 18:25

pbleighton, on Dec 5 2004, 10:13 PM, said:

jllal writes:

"*cringe*"

Try it, you'll like it :D

I seem to have lost my youthfulness, it pains me to even think of opening this 3C at any vulnerability lol. I will beat them by playing better and judging the auctions better, i see no need to shoot craps in order to win. Thats all opening 3C is, and its a losing proposition at that. Win it by outplaying them.
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Posted 2004-December-08, 18:46

jlaal writes:

"I seem to have lost my youthfulness, it pains me to even think of opening this 3C at any vulnerability lol. I will beat them by playing better and judging the auctions better, i see no need to shoot craps in order to win. Thats all opening 3C is, and its a losing proposition at that. Win it by outplaying them."

According to your profile, I'm 31 years older than you are.

Apparently I'm entering my second childhood.

Or is it my third, I can't remember...

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Posted 2004-December-09, 00:18

Old programmers never die, they just keep rewriting their Cobol code.
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Posted 2004-December-09, 16:44

"Old programmers never die, they just keep rewriting their Cobol code."

Wrong, Ron, Visual Basic is the COBOL of the 21st century!

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