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bad suit after being preempted Weakest holding with which to overcall?

Poll: bad suit after being preempted (9 member(s) have cast votes)

Weakest X with which I would overcall (IMPs)

  1. A (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. K (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  3. Q (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. J (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  5. T, or I would always bid (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

Weakest X with which I would overcall (MPs)

  1. A (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. K (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. Q (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. J (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  5. T, or I would always bid (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

If I bid, I would...

  1. X (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. 3[he] (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. 3NT (4 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

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#1 User is offline   antonylee 

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Posted 2012-September-27, 22:47

You pick up Kxx Xxxxx Axx AK in 2nd seat, v/v at IMPs. RHO opens 3. What's the weakest X with which you would overcall? Would you venture a double? 3NT?
What about at matchpoints?
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Posted 2012-September-28, 05:46

We can shut out the preempt, so give me J9xxx or better and I am bidding 3NT. This will often come home on a combined 23 count.

Sadly this is not even an option ... :(
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Posted 2012-September-28, 11:48

Added :)
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Posted 2012-September-29, 05:00

I did a fairly short simulation for this scenario (holding J9xxx, which for me is the pivotal hand), and the results were pretty close.

In a vacuum pass was fine and avoided quite a few disasters. However, when partner reopened with a double we had an insoluble problem (4 and miss slam or 5 and go down trying and sometimes still miss slam opposite decent minimums).

3 slightly edged out 3NT. We could sometimes shut out the preempt and score nine tricks but more often we needed to be in hearts.

Double worked best - it occasionally led to an inferior spot when partner was 43 in the majors, but on the whole I think it came out ahead. Our hand is pretty flexible and double reflects that. For instance, if partner responds 4 that will often be the best spot other than passing.
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