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Posted 2012-September-17, 20:14



- think east should bid 3c, not 2h, over dbl?
- west is supposed to pass 2h, not bid 3c?
- explanation for 3c is 4+ club, 17-22. This seems bad. Should be 6+ clubs IMO, and maybe something like 16-18 total points? I feel that 2nt/3c should be inv NF, 2s/3d = stopper, 1rf, inv+. With a lower cap east shouldn't go nuts and pull 3nt, although IMO it should go dbl-3c-3nt.
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Posted 2012-September-18, 05:58

View PostStephen Tu, on 2012-September-17, 20:14, said:



- think east should bid 3c, not 2h, over dbl?
- west is supposed to pass 2h, not bid 3c?
- explanation for 3c is 4+ club, 17-22. This seems bad. Should be 6+ clubs IMO, and maybe something like 16-18 total points? I feel that 2nt/3c should be inv NF, 2s/3d = stopper, 1rf, inv+. With a lower cap east shouldn't go nuts and pull 3nt, although IMO it should go dbl-3c-3nt.

Of course East is far too powerful to bid 2 . 10+ HCP and 10- TP is impossible included in the description of Blackwood and East is totally wrong with directional values to continue past 3NT- diamond values and spade values with three card and shortage in hearts is far better.
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Posted 2012-September-18, 07:31

Fixed for next update not to go through bad bids like 2, which limits the hand in the lower range.

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Posted 2012-September-18, 11:00

View Postgeorgi, on 2012-September-18, 07:31, said:

Fixed for next update not to go through bad bids like 2, which limits the hand in the lower range.


Did you also fix the 3 bid after the limited 2 bid? I certainly don't think it should be forcing and include 19-22 total point hands.

Also, please take a look at related thread:
http://www.bridgebas...uble-followups/
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Posted 2012-September-18, 12:19

The continuations will be addressed.

3 is easy to be prevented with West's hand, but it should have more accurate meaning than 4+ as in theory it covers some meanings if it's 17-22TP. Bidding one of the both South's suits is 19-22TP, so needs to be improved for sure as both mean some strong hand.

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Posted 2012-September-18, 14:44

I think that 2nt/3c should be limited and in the 16-18 total point range. (prob unbal/semi-bal since didn't open 1nt)

I don't particularly think that cue bids should be 19+, they should probably still be 16+ F1r. Otherwise strongish 1345/4315 hands don't have a bid. 19+ can just bid more if partner tries to sign off in a partial.
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