[yin970902]

♠ 7654
♥ A3
♦---
♣ AKQ10763

Play precise,Partner's opening-bid is 1♥.
VUL vs novul.
The process is as this:
1♥---Pass---2♣---2♦
2♠---Pass---?

1. 3♠
2. 4♦
3. 3♣
4. 5♠
5. 3♦

which is your choice?,please give your reason! thank you.

[SteveMoe]

Since ♠ are the risk suit here, let's eschew 5♦ exclusion. ♣ or ♥ might be the right trumps suit.
Instead I would start with 3♦ and over 3♥ try 3♠.
I hope 3N by pard would be either serious or frivolous and then bid accordingly. Useful if 3N shows poor trumps.

If partner rebids 3♠ over 3♦ I rebid 4♣ (3N if serious, but many would see this as "to play") and expect to hear 4♥ from partner. Now 4N by me should be RKB for ♥ (no longer risky since pard did not Q-bid 4♦). I hope to take 6♣, 5♥ and 1♠ at least, not to mention ♦ ruff too...

If pard bids 4♦ over my 4♣/3N I probably bid 4♥, punting to partner. I fear bad ♠. Pard's ♠Axxx might be enough for a ♣ slam. Not sure we can handle a ♥ slam if pard has more than 2 ♦.

[han]

I'll do something weird and rebid my 7 solid.

[mr1303]

I think I like 4C, showing a solid suit here? I think it's a mistake to raise spades, since 2 trump losers could easily put paid to 6S, whereas 6C might well make, if the hearts can provide discards.

I hope to hear 4H after that, but I expect to hear 4S.

Does the reverse show 5-6 shape? Or could he have 4-5 and a 15 count? (assuming Precise means precision)

[dake50]

What kind of Spade suit will partner introduce over 2D?
2 honors? Hefty 3 honors eg. AKJx, AQJx, KQJx?
What kind of hand? Minimum with 4xS? Misfit Clubs?
Of course he doesn't bid expecting this is a slammy hand,
but what would be another rebid choice with weak Spades?
Q-bid? Cooperative double? Pass - I did bid 2/1 - can't
he leave to me to show what I got?
I expect a hefty Spade suit. So I'm slammy.

[TimG]

I'll rebid my suit, 4♣ if that is available to show a solid suit.

[kenrexford]

Maybe I am missing something, but it seems rather critical to the decision whether 2♣ then 3♣ is forcing. I do not see that information anywhere provided.

[gnasher]

kenrexford, on 2012-September-17, 07:56, said:

Maybe I am missing something, but it seems rather critical to the decision whether 2♣ then 3♣ is forcing. I do not see that information anywhere provided.

Doesn't everyone play that a reverse opposite a two-level response is game-forcing, even in competition?

[phil_20686]

SO the choices are drive a slam in spades, which would let you show your void, or drive a slam in clubs, when you cant.

I would hate to go off in 6S opposite: Axxx KQJTx xx xx with 7C a claimer.

I would also hate to go off in 6C opposite, AKQx KQxxxx xxx - with 7S a claimer.

I just don't know :S

Issue would be to exclusion for spades, and if he doesnt have AKQ, bid 7C, provided that is to play. But then you cant tell the difference between AK and KQ.

Its too hard for me...... I could want to play grand in any denomination apart from diamonds. The reason to support spades is the lack of a diamond raise, suggests partner has at least 3 diamonds, and hence he might be void in diamonds. The reason to bid clubs is that partners spades might be poor.

[kenrexford]

gnasher, on 2012-September-17, 08:12, said:

Doesn't everyone play that a reverse opposite a two-level response is game-forcing, even in competition?

When Responder bid 2♣, there was no competition yet. This affects what minimum strength Responder has already shown, as well as what minimum strength Opener has shown. If 2♣ did not establish a GF, then perhaps 2♠ did (and hence shows extras). If 2♣...3♣ out of competition would be GF, then Opener's 2♠ is pure pattern and says nothing about strength. I think this is somewhat important, myself -- did Opener show extras or not?

[han]

Sorry seems to be the hardest word.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

5♠

[PhilKing]

My basic plan is to bid 3♠ and then 6♣, but it is somewhat dependent on what partner does next.

On a really good day, we make this missing the AK of spades, and with good cards partner can plausibly sniff out a raise. Plus I give partner the option to pull with good spades and 0 or 1 club.

The thought of committing to spades makes me ill.

[yin970902]

Opener has 11-15HCP,after RHO's 2♦,he doesnot bid pass or 2NT.
IMO,his 2♠-overbid shows spade suit as 4-card with two honors.
So, if he has
♠KQxx,♥KQJxx or
♠AQxx,♥KQJxx or
♠AKxx,♥KQJxx,
6♣ or 6♥ or 7♣ is a good contract.
But if his ♥-suit is not a semi-Solid suit,6♠ is a good contract.
If he has
♠AKQx,♥Kxxxx,
7♠ is a good idea.
How about bidding 3♦ to show ♠-fit and wait opener's ♥ or ♠ rebidding?

[Zelandakh]

yin970902, on 2012-September-19, 04:20, said:

How about bidding 3♦ to show ♠-fit and wait opener's ♥ or ♠ rebidding?

Is that what 3♦ means? What is the difference between 3♦ and 3♠ for you? Why do you want to lock yourself into spades rather than explore club (and heart) possibilities? Incidentally, you still have not told us whether 2♣ was game-forcing or not. This seems like a pretty fundamental point.

[P_Marlowe]

4D.

We have a fit, I show the fit, we play game.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

yin970902, on 2012-September-19, 04:20, said:

Opener has 11-15HCP,after RHO's 2♦,he doesnot bid pass or 2NT.
IMO,his 2♠-overbid shows spade suit as 4-card with two honors.
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Why should it show 2-honors?

If this is the agreement, than mention it beforehand, my guess is 2S showed
just 54.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[yin970902]

2♣ was game-forcing.