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1D--1S--2D--?? JT9xx,Kx,x,AQ9xx

#1 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2012-September-15, 20:20

Imps all vul.

JT9xx
Kx
x
AQ9xx

1D--1S
2D--??

You open some good 11 count but you pass most of them.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 20:37

P couldnt even conjure up a 3d bid. the singleton dia keeps me
conservative even at IMPS.

pass

and hope to go plus.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 22:20

pass
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Posted 2012-September-15, 22:59

Pass is bad, if partner forgot to raise spades with say 3163, but why should he?
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Posted 2012-September-15, 23:49

In the old days when 10 HCP were enough to rebid 2N....
Well it's a thought anyway.
If pard will open xx Qxx AQxxxx Kx I'll pass.
If xx Axx AJxxxx Kx we might have 8 tricks, but need a good result in s.
How lucky do I feel?
With either partner makes 2.
Unfortunately pard's 2 rebid can be wide ranging (up to 17 says Henry Bethe), so I guess I roll the dice and bid 2N. Who knows, pard might not have a min and might really have 3 cards for me.
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Posted 2012-September-16, 01:26

I don't believe that 10 points and a stiff small diamond was a 2N bid in the old days. It just seems like bad evaluation. Saying that the 3D bid can be up to 17 is disingenuous, I mean I don't believe 17 is possible but I would probably bid 2D on some 16 counts, but it would be misleading to describe it as up to 16 if it is so rare for me to have 16 that it makes up a negligible %age of the hands I would have.
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Posted 2012-September-16, 01:48

This is a clear cut pass to me. I assume, of course, that partner would raise spades with a holding like KQx
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Posted 2012-September-16, 23:27

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-September-15, 20:20, said:

Imps all vul.

JT9xx
Kx
x
AQ9xx

1D--1S
2D--??

You open some good 11 count but you pass most of them.

I am a passer but I am somewhat ashamed to admit the inconsistency of mentioning that I would have opened 1C (an acol and light opening background is my excuse)
Cheers, Stephen
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Posted 2012-September-17, 08:09

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-September-15, 20:20, said:

Imps all vul.

JT9xx
Kx
x
AQ9xx

1D--1S
2D--??

You open some good 11 count but you pass most of them.


This can not be a passed hand for me...
Opener can have 45, but then he will not have 3 spades.
I play 2 as 3SF/Bourke Relay here. Then opener will bid 2 with 1-4-5-3 or 2-4-5-2 and the bidding can end in 2nt. However with a minimal hand with 6crd diamonds opener will bid 3 and now you regret that you did not pass 2. Vulnerable at imps I will try for game though.

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Posted 2012-September-17, 14:26

I had

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Axx
KQT9xxx
Jxx

IRL we were NV and I thought my partner pass was obvious and even vul pass is the good bid IMO.

I made 6 and It was 3NT +3 at the other table. RHO had Jx and LHO had KT of clubs. This was the last hand of a small tourney that we lost first place by 1VP so there was some commentary on this hand.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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