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Your lead it got to 3nt so quickly

Poll: Your lead (17 member(s) have cast votes)

You lead

  1. SA (2 votes [11.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. SQ [or J] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. HQ [or J] (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  4. Hx (6 votes [35.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  5. Dx (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  6. CK (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Cx (7 votes [41.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

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#1 User is offline   Mbodell 

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Posted 2012-September-03, 02:18

Spots approximate, MP in good field, rotated:


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Posted 2012-September-04, 05:48

♣x
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2012-September-04, 18:37

Not much point trying a spade, since partner with ♠Kxxxx (plus a jack or queen) might have found a 1♠ bid. A small club might be his ninth trick, as might a heart (if he has Kx). With a passed partner I don't think we can get five tricks by attacking so I am going to hope he only has eight and lead a passive diamond. Maybe the hand is something like:

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Posted 2012-September-05, 01:44

View PostQuantumcat, on 2012-September-04, 18:37, said:

Maybe the hand is something like:

If you are going to hand pick a model example to illustrate your point it might be better to choose one where the contract is not cold.
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Posted 2012-September-05, 02:38

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-September-05, 01:44, said:

If you are going to hand pick a model example to illustrate your point it might be better to choose one where the contract overtrick is not cold.

FYP :P
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Posted 2012-September-05, 04:36

View PostFluffy, on 2012-September-05, 02:38, said:

FYP :P

The critic is a bit silly.
I voted for a small club, but exchange the ♥4 with the ♥T on Quantumcat's layout and only a diamond gives the defense a chance.

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Posted 2012-September-05, 05:07

View Postrhm, on 2012-September-05, 04:36, said:

I voted for a small club, but exchange the ♥4 with the ♥T on Quantumcat's layout and only a diamond gives the defense a chance.

I am not sure I understand this Rainer. You are a much better analyst than I but I cannot see where the defence has any chance whatsoever after South gets thrown in on clubs.
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Posted 2012-September-05, 05:17

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-September-05, 05:07, said:

I am not sure I understand this Rainer. You are a much better analyst than I but I cannot see where the defence has any chance whatsoever after South gets thrown in on clubs.

Assume declarer cashes diamonds
In the six card ending South keeps ♠AQJ, ♥3, ♦-, ♣K3
Now a club throw-in does not work, since you have 5 tricks on a heart exit.
(On the original layout declarer could exit with the ♥K, that's why the ♥4 needs to be exchanged with the ♥T)
If declarer exits in spades he himself gets squeezed.
In both cases the scenario is the same if declarer does not cash diamonds.

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Posted 2012-September-05, 16:02

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-September-05, 01:44, said:

If you are going to hand pick a model example to illustrate your point it might be better to choose one where the contract is not cold.

I must be missing something really obvious. How is the contract cold? If declarer sets up his club can't you put partner on lead and take three spades a club and a heart?
Edit: Ok, I think I understand Rainer's post. Ignoring my stupid made up hand, for the OP, either declarer has nine tricks and I can;t see how attacking can get us to five, or he has eight, and a diamond is the card least likely to give away a trick.
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