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#1 User is online   mike777 

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Posted 2004-November-20, 18:05

11/2004 The Southern Calif. Bridge News

Vul vs. NV
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1C=3S=?

QJ6=AK1098=A52=A5

1) What is your bid and why?

2) What would 4nt mean here?

3) If you double and partner rebids 4C, what now?
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Posted 2004-November-20, 19:04

mike777, on Nov 20 2004, 07:05 PM, said:

11/2004 The Southern Calif. Bridge News

Vul vs. NV
MP

1C=3S=?

QJ6=AK1098=A52=A5

1) What is your bid and why?

2) What would 4nt mean here?

3) If you double and partner rebids 4C, what now?

I vote X, then 4 if partner bids 4. Unless partner has a singleton spade, the odds of slam don't seem good to me. I can't believe partner will have enough in spades to convert to penalty.

I would think 4NT would show a red 2-suiter.

Oh well. I'm sure other people have much better ways to bid it.
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Posted 2004-November-20, 19:22

double appears safe, because with SPADE - QJX your parnter isn't passing. The problem with double, if there is a problem, is partner might bid past the best matchpoint spot (3NT). Sure, you miight have 6H or 6NT, or more. But I am going to bid just 3NT now. Chicken? Maybe, but experience teaches me to stay fixed on hands like this. If they have cashable AK of spades, 3NT is rates to be the best matchpoint spot.

4NT would be quantitative, but to bid 4NT with out Ace or King can get you to a 33 hcp 3NT losing the first two spades.

If i double and partner bids 4C i am no better off than just bidding 4H to begin with...

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Posted 2004-November-20, 20:47

Oh boy, bidding after 4 is a real pain, 4 looks like the only possible bid, but it isn´t forcing :-(.

4NT would be clearly RCKB with fit to me.
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Posted 2004-November-21, 07:34

This has no solution. waht 4N shoudl be? I think 4N is a good choice, if pd respond 5x, then he thought it is rkc, then we can find out how many key card pd has. If he pass or raise to 6n, good, i dont mind. So I vote for 4N.

A new convention called fly-to-heaven-or-hell ambiguous 4N asking bid :(
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Posted 2004-November-21, 09:50

1C=3S=?

QJ6=AK1098=A52=A5

1) What is your bid and why?

double because i can't think of anything better

2) What would 4nt mean here?

i have no idea, but i think partner would take it as rkc for clubs

3) If you double and partner rebids 4C, what now?

4S - i want this to ask for a control but i don't know if it does... i believe some of the posters (and probably some of those i've played with) would take it for that and bid 6C with a control, 5C without... but it is ambiguous i guess, so i might just blast 6C
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Posted 2004-November-21, 11:06

I am with Ben, I think I will bid 3NT on that hand.

4NT in this sequence might be "pick a minor" showing good diamonds but with club support if partner has a genuine suit. I don't agree it would be Blackwood - you rarely will want to use Blackwood in this sequence.

If I have doubled and partner bids 4 (what did we expect?) then I guess I will now bid 4.

My other (obvious) alternative to show a good hand here is to bid 4 but with partner possibly holding no more than a balanced 12-count that could take us way too high. Easy choice over a strong club though.
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Posted 2004-November-21, 15:13

I rather Dbl, and rebid 4. This isn't forcing, but it suggests I'm stronger than an immediate 4 bid.
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Posted 2004-November-22, 15:25

mike777, on Nov 21 2004, 12:05 AM, said:

11/2004 The Southern Calif. Bridge News

Vul vs. NV
MP

1C=3S=?

QJ6=AK1098=A52=A5

1) What is your bid and why?

2) What would 4nt mean here?

3) If you double and partner rebids 4C, what now?

3NT, easy MP decision. If it's IMP, it would be rather hard.
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Posted 2004-November-22, 19:41

junyi_zhu, on Nov 22 2004, 04:25 PM, said:

3NT, easy MP decision. If it's IMP, it would be rather hard.

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