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Pass or double?

Poll: Pass or double? (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (13 votes [76.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.47%

  2. Double (4 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  3. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2012-August-03, 02:32



Playing online with a strong partner you have the above auction. What do you do now?
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Posted 2012-August-03, 02:53

I think my first 2 doubles have conveyed my strength, and partner has failed to double this last bid. It looks like everything is the wrong side and they have as many values as we do. Pass.
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Posted 2012-August-03, 03:42

Pass not even close.

Partner opened 3rd seat non vulnerable and then made the weakest possible bid. I dont think we will defeat this more than 2 tricks, and when I double declarer will play it better and will even make on a bad day.

I would have passed 1N. I can see that we could miss game if partner has 15-16 and cant bid again, but on the other hand I wouldnt be happy if p has a light opener and we dont have a fit. Opponents are certainly not making anything and conceding to 300-500 is not unthinkable if I start with a X.

Of course opposite a sound opener doubling 1N is clear.
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Posted 2012-August-03, 10:25

Our LHO really jumped to 4 over RHO's double of 2? After our LHO ran from 1N doubled to 2?

Please confirm this is the case.

If it is the case, I think our collective resources would be better suited to answering real life problems with seemingly rational participants at the table.
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Posted 2012-August-03, 11:14

View PostPhil, on 2012-August-03, 10:25, said:

Our LHO really jumped to 4 over RHO's double of 2? After our LHO ran from 1N doubled to 2?

Please confirm this is the case.

If it is the case, I think our collective resources would be better suited to answering real life problems with seemingly rational participants at the table.


Partner psyched in 3rd. I can't say anything about the opponents' bidding. The full hand:



Unfortunately, I doubled 4!d, turning a good result into a bad one. My partner suggested I had shown my hand with my first two doubles, so I should have passed. From the poll so far, I guess he was right.
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Posted 2012-August-03, 11:56

View PostQuartic, on 2012-August-03, 11:14, said:

Partner psyched in 3rd. I can't say anything about the opponents' bidding. The full hand:

Unfortunately, I doubled 4!d, turning a good result into a bad one. My partner suggested I had shown my hand with my first two doubles, so I should have passed. From the poll so far, I guess he was right.


Yeah, once again my favorite quote from a bidding contest was "I don't mind a poor result to maintain overall partnership integrity".

Regardless of the outcome, passing gives partner confidence that they can maneuvre and double handcuffs them. It's actually a vote of confidence in you that pard trotted this one out so put it in the memory bank.
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Posted 2012-August-04, 10:58

i realize this post is after the fact but it changes my opinion in no way:

when you x 1n you were showing a roughly balanaced hand
(with at best nominal spade support) with about as much power
as you have. I do not see the purpose in the second x there is
nothing special in your hand and the heart K appears to be more
poorly placed with the long hearts to your left.


p running from 2hx is a strong sign they consider their hand very
below average defensively. Once that happens you realize you might
have to take most of the tricks in your hand and its hard to come to
much more that 2 tricks once you pinpoint where the dia length is.

Pass quietly and hope the opps belong in hearts (they rate to split well
for the opps) or you can set them 1 by not warning declarer of the poor
dia split and they get careless.
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Posted 2012-August-04, 11:24

If you think about it you know partner has psyched. The opponents didn't go back to hearts so partner pulled the double even though he has heart length. That also could make you realize the opponents just had an accident with the 4 bid, which makes sense. All the pieces just fit.
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Posted 2012-August-04, 23:00

Yeah, its clear to me now that I didn't think enough during the bidding of this hand.
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