[inquiry]

Fluffy, on Nov 19 2004, 03:15 PM, said:

I understood somethign liek you added more points for the J being on partner´s suit, and that is the thing I disagree.

For the example given ♠J will save a trick only about 25% of the times, when partner has ♠KQ it saves about 33%, and with others will save even less.

Ok, let's see how ZAR point works. Five zar points per level. Add a bonus one point for jack in his suit. So that is 1/5th of a trick, or 20%.... of a level. You estimate opposite KQ it is worth 33% of a trick (or 1.65 points), sometiems it is worth less, so adding a point seems just about right...

ben

[Fluffy]

33% only in 1 case, much less on others, actually imo it will have more entry values than pure trick winning ones.

We could discuse about this for ages, no real system is accurate 100%, just wanted to point out that to me a J with 9 card fit, and the Q as well could be devaluated, of course devaluating 1 point a 35% is like doing nothing, but to me they are something to undervalue than to overvalue when it comes to decide.