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Slam decision

Poll: Slam decision (18 member(s) have cast votes)

Slam decision

  1. Double (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  2. 4H (15 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

  3. 4S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 4N (key card) - I'll go to slam if pard has all the missing keys (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 4N (key card) - I'll go to slam even if pard only has 2 keys (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Make a slam suggestion with 5C (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  7. 5H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Other (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2004-November-17, 13:23

MP's, good field, weak opponents, all vul:

Scoring: Matchpoints


Pard...RHO...You...LHO
1....2....Dbl....3
3....4....?
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Posted 2004-November-17, 13:55

I can't vote because I bid 3D at my first call
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Posted 2004-November-17, 14:49

PriorKnowledge, on Nov 17 2004, 08:55 PM, said:

I can't vote because I bid 3D at my first call

Lucky you can 'always' vote "other" :)

4, not strong enough for slam imo...
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Posted 2004-November-17, 14:57

4H. Pard would stretch to bid 3 (and 4) hearts in this situation.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 15:10

4H? too chicken. All the Aces and Queens are so precious. I voted for 5C. 4NT might be a little too aggressive.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 16:54

Good hand, but doubleton d is ur weakness. perhaps conservative is better here. you need pd to have sak and hak to make it, as h finesse seems due to fail.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 19:27

about 26 combined HCP, we belong to game.

The hand we need for slam (a 5-5 with 4/5 keycards) is nearly impossible, partner would bid 4 with AKAK, and probably with AKKK unless the minor K was bare...
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Posted 2004-November-18, 18:04

well i'm all alone with my double... oh well
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Posted 2004-November-18, 18:35

luke warm, on Nov 18 2004, 07:04 PM, said:

well i'm all alone with my double... oh well

I am alone, too, with my 5C. Don't be sad.
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Posted 2004-November-18, 18:56

I'm alone with my actual call at the table; 4N. Pard seemed marked with a diamond stiff and a non-minimum.

Pard actually held: AJ9xx, Axxx, Kx, Jx. Slam had no play on the K lead (or no other lead for that matter :unsure: )

I wouldn't have thought that partner would bid 3 over 3 with a minimum hand. I would have thought that a dead minimum passes and waits for partner's balance.

But judging from the other posters - most of whom I hold in high regard :) , I was clearly out to lunch on this one.

Perhaps maximal doubles should be sensibly played here. After all, I can't see pard blasting to 4 on a hand like: AJxxx, AKxx, x, Kxx. Note that 6 is excellent on this hand.
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Posted 2004-November-19, 13:54

pclayton, on Nov 19 2004, 12:56 AM, said:

I'm alone with my actual call at the table; 4N. Pard seemed marked with a diamond stiff and a non-minimum.

Pard actually held: AJ9xx, Axxx, Kx, Jx. Slam had no play on the K lead (or no other lead for that matter :) )

I wouldn't have thought that partner would bid 3 over 3 with a minimum hand. I would have thought that a dead minimum passes and waits for partner's balance.

But judging from the other posters - most of whom I hold in high regard :) , I was clearly out to lunch on this one.

Perhaps maximal doubles should be sensibly played here. After all, I can't see pard blasting to 4 on a hand like: AJxxx, AKxx, x, Kxx. Note that 6 is excellent on this hand.

1. Pd is more likely to have doulbeton rather than singleton.
2. I think pd is correct to compete with 3H. With the better hand you gave, I would also bid 4H. Contested auction is so different from uncontested auction. You are fighting for partscore most of time, game is unusual, slam is exceptional. I wouldnot mind missing that slam.
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Posted 2004-November-19, 19:05

hey phil, for the hell of it how would 4d doubled have done? this is matchpoints, and i'm a big believer in cooperative doubles especially with this scoring
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Posted 2004-November-19, 20:11

assume 17 or 18 total trumps...with zero or minus one adjustments.
very close between 4h and double.

If we guess 17.5 total trumps and .5 minus adjustment then double is the call. but that is two assumptions.
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