[Phil]

I'm re-reading Adventures in Card Play. I came across a hand this morning that is a neat challenge for a sharp up-and-comer but isn't over the top.

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I tweaked the bidding a little to make it seem more current.

LHO leads the ♥3, low, 9, A.

How do you continue?

[Antrax]

I think I figured it out - RHO is 4=3=5=1, so after winning the first heart, I play a club to dummy and ruff a diamond. Then I keep playing clubs. RHO can ruff with his natural trump trick, but he has nothing to exit - if he exits a trump I win and concede two spades, exiting a spade means I have at most two losers, and exiting a diamond still lets me ruff the third round of spades after drawing his last trump.
So, let's say he pitches diamonds. After the fourth club, I'll draw another trump then endplay him with a heart.

[Phil]

Antrax, on 2012-June-27, 11:28, said:

I think I figured it out - RHO is 4=3=5=1, so after winning the first heart, I play a club to dummy and ruff a diamond. Then I keep playing clubs. RHO can ruff with his natural trump trick, but he has nothing to exit - if he exits a trump I win and concede two spades, exiting a spade means I have at most two losers, and exiting a diamond still lets me ruff the third round of spades after drawing his last trump.
So, let's say he pitches diamonds. After the fourth club, I'll draw another trump then endplay him with a heart.

Doesn't work. RHO does not ruff your club and can pitch 1-2 spades or 2-3 diamonds on the clubs. If you try to endplay him with a trump, he'll have a diamond exit.

[Antrax]

Oh. So I'll ruff a diamond for every spade he pitches, that should work.

[Phil]

Antrax, on 2012-June-27, 11:57, said:

Oh. So I'll ruff a diamond for every spade he pitches, that should work.

Dude, its OTTLIK. Try to be more specific

[Antrax]

OTTLIK?
I'm just afraid a post explaining all permutations would be extremely long. The problem is three spade losers to go with my trump loser. The way to solve it is to keep west off-lead and keep a trump in dummy. So that's the main theme, if east ruffs then it's easy because I ruff a spade in dummy. So east never ruffs, and then I want to strip his diamonds so I can throw him in with his trump trick.
Assuming I got his distribution correctly, I must ruff a diamond after the first club. Then, if east pitches a spade on the second club, I can ruff a diamond and play another club to dummy, etc.
The only problem I think I may have missed is how to always end up in dummy after a club. Assuming E has a small singleton, that leaves W with T98x. And now that I think about it, I'm not sure I know how to deal with it. Hmm.

[MrAce]

How about this (assuming RHO has 4351)

After ♥A

-Play a ♠ to the K, and make if A is onside, if not make if 2-2 ♥ and if not we need 4 club entries to dummy to ruff 4 diamonds so;

-Take the 2nd ♥ with K, and play EAST for holding one of those club spots (T-9-8), play ♣K and overtake it with dummy's ace, dropping one of those spots from East.
-Ruff a diamond
-small club to dummy finessing West if not covers
-Ruff 2nd diamond
-3rd club to dummy (assuming east refuses to ruff)
-Ruff 3rd diamond
-4th club to dummy
-Ruff 4th diamond for our 10th trick ?

EDIT : My line sucks if East has 4342 shape and holding 2 of 3 spots doubleton (T-9-8) i guess. But at the table i would play it like this to be honest. I am sure there is a % 100 way of making it since Phil asked this. But then isnt West supposed to bid 4♠ with double fit (holding 5 of his pd's first suit) ?

[BunnyGo]

Antrax, on 2012-June-27, 12:16, said:

OTTLIK?

Get it. Don't ask...just get it; you'll love it.

http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/0304368075

[BunnyGo]

Knowing it's Ottlik and the shape of the general shape of the hand, I'm guessing there's a backwash squeeze .

[Phil]

BunnyGo, on 2012-June-27, 13:01, said:

Knowing it's Ottlik and the shape of the general shape of the hand, I'm guessing there's a backwash squeeze .

This is two chapters after the backwash fun

I hate to say it, but I'm hard pressed to think of a single book that I like more than any of AICP's individual chapters.

[MrAce]

BunnyGo, on 2012-June-27, 13:01, said:

Knowing it's Ottlik and the shape of the general shape of the hand, I'm guessing there's a backwash squeeze .

Whats a backwash squeeze ?

[wyman]

MrAce, on 2012-June-27, 13:34, said:

Whats a backwash squeeze ?

where you, by ruffing high in the hand with the threats, force the defender behind the threats to either discard a guard or underruff, and you gain a trick either way.

[MrAce]

wyman, on 2012-June-27, 13:35, said:

where you, by ruffing high in the hand with the threats, force the defender behind the threats to either discard a guard or underruff, and you gain a trick either way.

Thank you Wyman

[gszes]

I like this hand come on people lets see some skill out there in bbo land:))))))))))))))))

heres a hint its 100% if clubs are 32

[Phil]

gszes, on 2012-June-27, 14:16, said:

I like this hand come on people lets see some skill out there in bbo land:))))))))))))))))

heres a hint its 100% if clubs are 32

Actually Timo got it right - mostly. Besides, if clubs are 3-2, hearts are 2-2. wtp?

[MrAce]

Phil, on 2012-June-27, 14:59, said:

Actually Timo got it right - mostly. Besides, if clubs are 3-2, hearts are 2-2. wtp?

Does it qualify me as "up and sharp and coming" player Or am i too old for that

[nige1]

MrAce, on 2012-June-27, 15:49, said:

Does it qualify me as "up and sharp and coming" player Or am i too old for that

Phil, on 2012-June-27, 10:31, said:

a sharp up-and-comer ... over the top

[gszes]

gszes, on 2012-June-27, 14:16, said:

I like this hand come on people lets see some skill out there in bbo land:))))))))))))))))

heres a hint its 100% if clubs are 32

i am lazy sometimes lop also works if clubs 41 or 50

trick 3 top heart (if hearts are 22 hand is over)
trick 4 club to J
trick 5 dia ruff
trick 6 club to Q
trick 7 dia ruff
trick 8 club to A
trick 9 dia ruff
trick 10 club
trick 11 lead toward the spade K trying for overtrick.

the trick here is that if w ruffs in anytime the most we can lose is 1 h and 2s
if e ruffs in they can only return a spade (we lose 1 spade) or a dia
we ruff and lead toward the spade K for an overtrick