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Why I lose at bridge

#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2012-June-14, 05:13

All white, IMPs.

xxx
J
xxx
J109xxx

You pass in first seat and the auction continues:

p - (p) - 1H - (1S)
p - (3S) - Dbl - (Rdbl)
4C - (p) - 4S - (p)
??

What would you bid? Although 4NT should probably some sort of last train here, assume that partner would answer his number of keycards.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-June-14, 05:27

6♣

(assuming a reliable partner)

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Posted 2012-June-14, 06:50

Could partner have one of these hands:
- AKxxxx Axx AKxx
- AKJxx AKxx AKxx
If I was sure that 4NT would be Keycard, I'd bid that, in case partner shows four keycards wth a void. I expect him to be selective about showing that, obviously.


This post has been edited by gnasher: 2012-June-14, 06:53

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:24

5♣. If I need a finesse, it's probably offsides, and partner didn't open 2♣ to begin with. Plus, its an extension of the -50/+480 rule.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 12:31

6C
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Posted 2012-June-14, 12:38

Yes, 6♣. Hopefully partner can kick it in with a 0634 and the tops.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 16:11

Dont think you lose at bridge because you didnt guess between 5♣ and 6♣.
I think you lose because you play with ppl that dont know the guy who denied a positive hand and can have 0 hcp can ask kc.
4nt is clear for me imho.
It is a last train and works as intended..I dont have anything but the long ♣.
Its like having 3 bids 1.4nt-9 2.5♣-2 3.6♣-2 and you ask me to pick from 2/3.
I'm saying "F*** this Im still picking 1".
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Posted 2012-June-14, 16:29

If I had 4N available, I'd bid 6C
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Posted 2012-June-14, 17:55

Call me crazy but i would have bid 5♣ over pd's first double. (instead of 4♣)
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Posted 2012-June-14, 18:22

View PostMrAce, on 2012-June-14, 17:55, said:

Call me crazy but i would have bid 5♣ over pd's first double. (instead of 4♣)

Not crazy but I agree with the 4♣ bid personally. Anyway I also agree with all the 6♣ bids now.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 18:58

Hmm...a cue bid at the 4-level following a TOX -- smells like 6♣ to me...
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Posted 2012-June-15, 05:48

I think from the title it was pretty clear what I did and what the result was. Partner held

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AKQxx
AQxx
Axxx

Thanks all for your reactions!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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