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4 spade overcall opinions please

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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:04


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     1NT   4♠    Pass
 Pass  Dbl   Pass  Pass
 Pass  

was this a sensible bid ?

(opinions before you see how many I went down, please don't look at the hand in myhands before you comment LOL)

what result do you think I was aiming for when I made this bid?

what defence over NT would have got me to the best place for this hand?

what is the best defence over NT in your opinion ? ( and why do you like it)
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:09

I see 10 tricks, so the bid was just fine :)
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:17

4♠ is fine.

Some people have a real anathema about preempting over a 1N opening. No problem for me.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:22

4sp is ok, but other bids would be fine too.
How did you go down ?
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:26

I never I just said that so no one would look at my play and say it was ok because I made it
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:28

or that I was seeking adulation LOL
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:32

was this a sensible bid ?

(opinions before you see how many I went down, please don't look at the hand in myhands before you comment LOL)

Yes, I would've done it as well. As it turns out you have 4♠ laydown tnx to ♦A.
Dbl is ridiculous... If there's someone who can Dbl, it's South, not North.

what result do you think I was aiming for when I made this bid?

Aiming for -2 maximum imo, hope to get something from partner and you have a huge chance to make it.

what defence over NT would have got me to the best place for this hand?

Any defense gets you to 4♠ imo. Just bid it ;)

what is the best defence over NT in your opinion ? ( and why do you like it)

Meckwell against strong NT!
Multi-landy or Cappeletti against weak NT.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:43

Cappelletti is awful. The only reason it is still played is because it's the same vs strong or weak NT, and people are too lazy to bother using different methods for both cases, lol.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 10:45

How may you went down???
How can u go any down whit this hand??
4 S is fine ;)
foole me once, shame one you!!
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Posted 2004-November-11, 15:41

sceptic, on Nov 12 2004, 02:04 AM, said:


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     1NT   4♠    Pass
 Pass  Dbl   Pass  Pass
 Pass  

was this a sensible bid ?

(opinions before you see how many I went down, please don't look at the hand in myhands before you comment LOL)

what result do you think I was aiming for when I made this bid?

what defence over NT would have got me to the best place for this hand?

what is the best defence over NT in your opinion ? ( and why do you like it)

was this a sensible bid ?
Yes

what result do you think I was aiming for when I made this bid?
1 off to making

what defence over NT would have got me to the best place for this hand
Just bidding 4S

what is the best defence over NT in your opinion ? ( and why do you like it)
Variants of Aspro/Asptro. Why - gives you good chances to get into the auction. Most defences except for Cappelletti have at least some merit.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 15:45

is suction gcc legal? i heard somewhere that it isn't... usually i play dont
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Posted 2004-November-11, 15:53

Good bid? Certanly!

North's double is impossible.

I prefer Woolsey over strong notrump, also like lionel (aka astro-grano)
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Posted 2004-November-11, 16:16

sure, if u wont bid 4S with that then u never will. certainly caught great cards with pard. What result were you hoping for? making...expecting down 1 or 2 probably.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 17:10

luke warm, on Nov 11 2004, 01:45 PM, said:

is suction gcc legal? i heard somewhere that it isn't... usually i play dont

Suction isn't GCC legal, but neither is the 2♦ call in Woolsey for that matter.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 17:15

ok, that means i can't play it in any acbl tourney... is it true that any defense over 1nt is legal IF at least one suit is known?
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Posted 2004-November-11, 17:17

luke warm, on Nov 11 2004, 03:15 PM, said:

ok, that means i can't play it in any acbl tourney... is it true that any defense over 1nt is legal IF at least one suit is known?

Woolsey has more to do that the 2♦ overcall is ambiguous. If you swap 2♣ and 2♦, you can play it, since there are no restrictions on 2♣ and double.

Suction is illegal on many fronts, but District 23 allows it for some reason.
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