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Posted 2004-November-03, 03:34

Scoring: IMP

LHO par RHO you
pass pass pass 1NT
pass 2 pass 2
pass 3 pass 3NT
pass pass dbl rdbl
(all pass)

3 showed a 55 game-forcing, and dbl didn't ask for any lead in particular. East is a strong player. West thinks for a while and leads the diamond 4, on which East inserts the 8 (can't remember pard's spots, sorry) and you take the king.

What do you play now? Oh and won't someone PLEASE write a bidding template? Thx :D
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Posted 2004-November-03, 05:29

East could be 4-4 in hearts and clubs, which would give West a very shapely hand (strange he passed in first seat).

My temptation is to cross to A and lead a low one to the queen. Does my queen win? Does West show out on this trick?

Still, if East has 4 hearts but only 3 clubs I will have 5 clubs tricks, 2 hearts and 2 diamonds (or a spade if East goes for them), though I could go down on a spade shift now, then back to East's ace and another spade, still there is no 100% line.

Clearly can't run my clubs now even if they break (my hand is horribly squeezed).
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Posted 2004-November-03, 05:42

Maybe there are safer plays but i will play A and heart to the Q.
Some doubled overtricks cant hurt.
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Posted 2004-November-03, 19:09

Flame, on Nov 3 2004, 01:42 PM, said:

Maybe there are safer plays but i will play A and heart to the Q.
Some doubled overtricks cant hurt.

me too
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Posted 2004-November-04, 05:33

Allright, so you play a heart to the ace and EAST (not west, lol) discards the spade 8 (std signals). Now what? :)
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Posted 2004-November-04, 10:49

whereagles, on Nov 4 2004, 06:33 AM, said:

Allright, so you play a heart to the ace and EAST (not west, lol) discards the spade 8 (std signals). Now what? B)

This is what the UNDO buttom is for :P
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Posted 2004-November-04, 13:30

whereagles, on Nov 3 2004, 11:34 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

LHO par RHO you
pass pass pass 1NT
pass 2 pass 2
pass 3 pass 3NT
pass pass dbl rdbl
(all pass)

Allright, so you play a heart to the ace and EAST (not west, lol) discards the spade 8 (std signals). Now what?

east shows out on the first heart eh?..well that certainly hurt

guess i lose the heart.. when back in, i think i'd play a diamond.. if it loses and one is returned, i take it and run the clubs, tossing a spade and my last heart... then i'd lead the spade
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Posted 2004-November-05, 03:16

Thx all. Here's the full hand
Scoring: IMP

South to play 3NT redoubled on the lead of a small diamond

After a diamond lead and since clubs are 4-1, declarer needs to guess to play a heart to the EIGHT(!!) at trick two. This will put him one tempo ahead, and he can now take 3 hearts, 1 spade, 3 clubs and 2 diamonds.

Needless to say, the play was not found at table :D East's double does hint at something fishy, but declarer also thought that something was the heart king-jack, lol. He too played a heart to the ace and went down.
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Posted 2004-November-05, 17:17

i sure don't think i'd assign any blame for his going down here... what's the best percentage line, not double dummy?
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Posted 2004-November-05, 17:47

I don't know. But if you count on 5 clubs running, trying for a heart trick seems to be a good shot. Better than spades, at least.
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Posted 2004-November-07, 05:53

Both the doubler and the redoubler are nut cases!
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2004-November-07, 08:24

Yes. What was South thinking of, redoubling with 17 opposite an expected 10, TWO sources of tricks and double stoppers in the unbid suits? Incredible!
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Posted 2004-November-11, 02:48

agree, lunatic XX with no aces and knowing his "trick sources" will break badly from this spec X
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