[flytoox]

Flame, on Oct 30 2004, 08:10 PM, said:

1NT - 2♣
2♦ -3♣
3♥ -3♠
3NT/4♣ -4♦
4♥ -4NT
5♠ - 7♣/6♦
2c stayman
3c showing 5 clubs 4M and slam seeking
3H cue bid showing club fit
3sp cue
3NT/4C cue or whatever 3nt mean here
4D - cue
4H -cue showing second honor in the suit
4NT aces
5sp - 2 aces with the Q of club
7club - to play or 6D if this asks about Q of diamond, if partner has the Q we can bid 7NT.

I like this sequence.

[aijianhua]

1NT--2!c
2!d---3!c
3!h---3!s
3NT--4!d
4!h---4NT
5!s---7!c
I think this sequence will be reasonable.

[mila85]

I don't play sayc but acol. It's also natural system.

1♣-1♥ (we do not bid inverted minor with 4c major)
1NT- 2♦ (16-18 4333 or 5332 with clubs - 2♦ is inv+)
2♥-3♣ (min with 3 heards - 3♣ is GF with clubs)
3♥-3♠ (cuebids)
3NT- 4♦ (3NT shows 4333, can be final contract - 4♦ is cuebid)
4♥-4NT (I know about AK in heards - 4NT is allum)
5♠-6♦ (2A+Q - Dorosewitz)
6♠-7NT (Q or AK in ♦ - final contract)

Every natural system has some convenctions....

[junyi_zhu]

flytoox, on Oct 29 2004, 08:35 PM, said:

Dealer: North

North:
S: AXX
H: AKX
D: QXX
C: QJXX

South:
S: X
H: QJXX
D: AKX
C: AKTXX

It's quite straight forward if you play my system:
1N(good 14 to normal 17, balanced) 2C(stayman)
2D(denies 4 card major when minimum may have spade suit when maximum) 3S(short spades)
4C(natural) 4D(RKC)
5C(two KC with Q) 5D(K?)
5H(HK) 5N(DQ?)
7C(yes) 7NT( now you can count 5 clubs, 3 diamonds, 4 hearts and SA)

[flytoox]

Jlall, on Nov 15 2004, 07:57 AM, said:

why do we worry about such things? this isnt where matches are won and lost.

No, it can be. This is not a hand I made, it was a hand I played on BBO.

[PriorKnowledge]

N: Axx AKx Qxx QJxx
S: x QJxx AKx AKxxx

This is a possible auction, if 2C followed by 3m is forcing. Some play this sequence as weak.

1N 2C
2D 3C
3H 4C
4N 5C
5H 5S
6D 7N

2C = stayman
3C = 5+c/4M, GF
3H = q-bid accepting clubs
4C = RKC for clubs
4N = 2 with QC
5C = specific king ask (cannot be signoff)
5H = KH, no KD
At this point, responder can count 1s+4h+2d+5c=12
5S = Anything else, like KS?
6D = No KS, but have QD. Can't be KD because 5H denied KD. Bypassing 6C is a chancy bid. Opener guesses that responder is looking for 7N and hopes 6N is safe.
7N = that'll do

I don't think u can get to 7N safely unless 4C is RKC.

[inquiry]

It was most definately a BBO hand, played on October 29th in the main bridge room. Fly did ok, reaching 6♣ by a very simple auction

Quote

IMP-43      shirleyai   Dlr: East 
Board             S A62       Vul: N-S
                    H AKT      
marmotte30    D Q75        dimitarhg  
S Q874          C QJ83       S KJ953    
H 8764                          H 53       
D 983            flytoox       D J642     
C 92              S T           C 65    
                    H QJ92     
                    D AKT      
                    C AKT74    

North    East     South    West    
marmotte30shirleyaidimitarhgflytoox 
           1NT      Pass     2C      
Pass      2D       Pass     6C      
Pass      Pass     Pass    

Opening lead: C9    Result: Made 7
Score: 940          Points: 1.20 

1  North  C9

=======================================
  # Contr   Ld  Decl     Tr  Score   Pts
=======================================
  1 5D    E H5  XXXXXXXX 12   420  -9.93         
  2 5C    E D2  XXXXXXXX 13   440  -9.20         
  3 4H    E H5  XXXXXXXX 13   510  -8.33         
  4 3N    W S8  XXXXXXXX 13   520  -8.00         
  5 6C    W C9  flytoox  13   940   1.20         
  6 6C    E C6  XXXXXXX  13   940   1.20         
  7 6C    W S4  XXXXXXXX 13   940   1.20         
  8 6C    W C9  XXXXXXXX 13  940   1.20         
  9 6C    W S4  xxxxxxx  13   940   1.20         
10 6N    E SJ  xxxxxxxxx13  1020   2.93         
11 6N    E H5  xxxxxx   13  1020   2.93         
12 6N    E S5  xxxxxxx  13  1020   2.93         
13 6N    E S9  xxxxxxxx 13  1020   2.93         
14 6N    E H3  xxxxxxx  13  1020   2.93         
15 6N    E D2  xxxxxxx  13  1020   2.93         
16 7N    E C6  xxxxxxxx 13  1520  11.87         

I think 1NT is best opening bid for north is 1NT (as I said before). I can't imagine any auction beginning 1NT with a natural and forcing 3C rebid going any different from...

1N 2C
2D 3C
3N<<<----- if 3♥ instead, that is not at this point promising club fit and cue, but rather worried about 3NT I would think (although it could be an advanced cue bid, which would be clarified later.... however. East will not stop at 3NT of course, and I think 4♣ or 4♦ here by agreement is ace asking.

7NT isn't too magic, imagine 4♣ now as minorwood...

1N 2C
2D 3C
3N 4C <== 4C = minorwood
4N 5D <-- 4NT = 2 keys with Club Q, 5D = specific kings
5H 5S <-- anymore
6D 7N <-- with a second king after 5S, just bid grand slam, 6D is queen of D.
Pass

Maybe a little deep, but at least possible... finding queen in unbid minor is tough, but over 3NT you arlready suspect partner has queen, else how bid 3NT over 3♣, so you might just bid 7NT anyway (even has exellent good play if partner is Axx AKx Qxxxx Qx)

[cf_John0]

flytoox, on Oct 29 2004, 03:35 PM, said:

Dealer: North

North:
S: AXX
H: AKX
D: QXX
C: QJXX

South:
S: X
H: QJXX
D: AKX
C: AKTXX

The natrual bid sequence may be:
1NT 2C(Stayman)
2NT 4C/4NT(ace asking which is at play)
Continue 5C/5NT(king asking)
Continue 7NT(possible minor fit & total HCPs)

really natrual at risk .