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Fahrvergnugen nothing to do with anything

Poll: Fahrvergnugen (31 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call?

  1. pass (7 votes [22.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.58%

  2. double (5 votes [16.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

  3. 4NT (3 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  4. 5D (16 votes [51.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.61%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   daveharty 

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Posted 2012-February-21, 22:22


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Posted 2012-February-21, 22:46

I think my choices are pass, 5♦ and X. X has issues, is it t/o, if so and he bids 4♠ to I bid 4nt, is that blackwood or minors. Do I rip 4♠ to 5♦, is that a cue looking for slam. Too many ways this auction can get confused, without a good solid agreement of methods I'm not doubling this.

So pass or 5♦? At Imps I'm whimping out and passing. Too much risk of -500 Vs +50 or +100. Yes I could miss a cold game, that's what pre-empts do.

At pairs I reckon I'll bid 5♦ but I still think pass is an ok bid. Sometimes the pre-empters win! - sometimes they go for a big minus too :-)

I'm interested in what others do with this hand and others like it. The 6-4 in the minors make it tough, do you bid 4nt and find the 4-3 ♣ fit and miss your 6-2 or 6-3 ♦ fit? Do you find your 6-1 ♦ fit and miss your 5-4 or 4-4 ♣ fit. Maybe pards has a 6313 weak hand and you miss 4♠? If you X for t/0 to you pass 4♠ I couldn't but...
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Posted 2012-February-21, 23:07

X at MP pass at Imps. 5D on a 6 card suit at V/nv is a joke imo.

I like to play that X and 5C show both m with better clubs and X and 4NT show both m with better D. Getting to best game trumps getting to slam. Here however i think I would X and pass 4S, but ill pull if they double.
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Posted 2012-February-21, 23:42

I am going to bid 5D. Can this work out badly? Of course! I am not going to double because i do not know what to do over 4S, (yes, 4NT would now be B'wood I assume).
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Posted 2012-February-21, 23:56

5D. Most likely our best fit.
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Posted 2012-February-22, 00:02

Tough problem...either P or 5♦ could be right.

It's tempting to take the +50 or +100 (hopefully) by passing, but it really depends on the state of the match and the likely auction at the other table.


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Posted 2012-February-22, 01:59

:P 5♦ looking cheerful.
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Posted 2012-February-22, 04:51

Hi,

4NT is out, this showes 55, do I really intend to pass 5C?

X is out, this showes 4 spades, do I really plan to pass 4S?

So either bid 5D or pass.

I would go with 5D, but dont mind pass.

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Posted 2012-February-22, 05:29

pass (can't see 5D making here)

MPs is more interesting. Maybe 5D?

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Posted 2012-February-22, 07:37

Pass
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Posted 2012-February-22, 07:54

obvious 6♣
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Posted 2012-February-22, 07:58

For the serious problem, I'd like to play in clubs if partner had 4 because AKxxxx is very good to be able to ruff third round in dummy, however 6-4 is too much disparity, so I´d bid 5♦
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Posted 2012-February-22, 08:10

View PostFluffy, on 2012-February-22, 07:54, said:

obvious 6♣


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Posted 2012-February-22, 08:22

View PostFluffy, on 2012-February-22, 07:54, said:

obvious 6♣


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Posted 2012-February-22, 09:44

I would much rather double than bid 5D. If partner passes I'm happy and if partner doesn't I can always retreat to diamonds (though not over 5C).
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Posted 2012-February-22, 10:08

Pass

Maybe they got us....but if they don't, why get ourselves?

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Posted 2012-February-22, 10:43

I passed. Not a success:



As an aside, if you were North and your partner bid 5D, would you give him a bump?
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Posted 2012-February-22, 10:48

Pretty unlucky to find hearts 7-0-5-1 around the table I think.
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Posted 2012-February-22, 12:55

I might bump 5D to 6 yes. Got 2 good cards and a useful void. That's way above average.
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Posted 2012-February-22, 13:05

View Postwhereagles, on 2012-February-22, 12:55, said:

I might bump 5D to 6 yes. Got 2 good cards and a useful void. That's way above average.

Against your 6♦ they lead a spade. :)
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