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Interesting that ken sets trumps as spades and andy sets trumps as diamonds. Perhaps that suggests we should go slower and hold off on setting trumps? I like 1S 2D 2S 3D as a start. I guess it would then go 3N 4D 4H 4S 4N (keycard for diamonds) etc.
How would you bid these?
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Posted 2012-February-18, 19:24
JLOGIC, on 2012-February-18, 18:26, said:
Interesting that ken sets trumps as spades and andy sets trumps as diamonds. Perhaps that suggests we should go slower and hold off on setting trumps? I like 1S 2D 2S 3D as a start. I guess it would then go 3N 4D 4H 4S 4N (keycard for diamonds) etc.
As opener, would you not be concerned that responder might pass 3NT when 6♦ or 6♠ is odds on? (Not on this hand, per se, but given your initial sequence in general?)
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Posted 2012-February-18, 19:30
S2000magic, on 2012-February-18, 19:24, said:
As opener, would you not be concerned that responder might pass 3NT when 6♦ or 6♠ is odds on? (Not on this hand, per se, but given your initial sequence in general?)
I wouldn't be concerned about 6S, but yeah I'd be concerned about missing 6D since I have a max 3N bid. Still, sometimes you're dealt a max. My spade holding is not good if partner is stiff, and I only have 1 diamond and 15 points.
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It would be nice if you gave a little more detail Ben so we can all follow your auction.
2C is D transfer single suiter Weak or GF, with all inv (semi pos) we bid 1D. 2D is 15-20. 3C show a club void (guaranteeing 7D). 4C is rkc in S (we dont show void over voids) so if opener has a void in D we have no way to show it (but its almost impossible you going to have slam without D tricks so in this precise case its irrelevent). For the 9310 argument, Hands with a stiff and a void where the opponent pass all the way are so rare that they are also irrelevant. So we assume that when we show a void/singleton we have at least 2 in the other suits. Also opener would bid 2M rather than 2D with a good 6M (void in D) or with a great 6M and a stiff D.
In the rare case where we have 2 singletons for example 1183 we show the cheapest stiff and when partner keycard in the other stiff we lie with the number of keycard (-1) and pull the signoff (while still showing some slam interest or not). Its far from perfect but its a reasonable solution for hands that happen once a year.
Its also possible to pull a signoff if you have a solid suit. 6331 you show 6S and stiff clubs partner keyc in H and soff in 4H, 4S is showing solid spades so it might allow you to avoid slow H loser if you can discard the 3rd H on club or on a 4th diamond.
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benlessard, on 2012-February-18, 22:49, said:
Yes sorry the link to my systme keep changing and I dont know how exactly bridge.downagain work to avoid this. But the sure link is going via http://bridge.downag...e/FD/public.php and you can see all my system and fairly precise meaning of the bids.
2C is D transfer single suiter Weak or GF, with all inv (semi pos) we bid 1D. 2D is 15-20. 3C show a club void (guaranteeing 7D). 4C is rkc in S (we dont show void over voids) so if opener has a void in D we have no way to show it (but its almost impossible you going to have slam without D tricks so in this precise case its irrelevent). For the 9310 argument, Hands with a stiff and a void where the opponent pass all the way are so rare that they are also irrelevant. So we assume that when we show a void/singleton we have at least 2 in the other suits. Also opener would bid 2M rather than 2D with a good 6M (void in D) or with a great 6M and a stiff D.
In the rare case where we have 2 singletons for example 1183 we show the cheapest stiff and when partner keycard in the other stiff we lie with the number of keycard (-1) and pull the signoff (while still showing some slam interest or not). Its far from perfect but its a reasonable solution for hands that happen once a year.
Its also possible to pull a signoff if you have a solid suit. 6331 you show 6S and stiff clubs partner keyc in H and soff in 4H, 4S is showing solid spades so it might allow you to avoid slow H loser if you can discard the 3rd H on club or on a 4th diamond.
2C is D transfer single suiter Weak or GF, with all inv (semi pos) we bid 1D. 2D is 15-20. 3C show a club void (guaranteeing 7D). 4C is rkc in S (we dont show void over voids) so if opener has a void in D we have no way to show it (but its almost impossible you going to have slam without D tricks so in this precise case its irrelevent). For the 9310 argument, Hands with a stiff and a void where the opponent pass all the way are so rare that they are also irrelevant. So we assume that when we show a void/singleton we have at least 2 in the other suits. Also opener would bid 2M rather than 2D with a good 6M (void in D) or with a great 6M and a stiff D.
In the rare case where we have 2 singletons for example 1183 we show the cheapest stiff and when partner keycard in the other stiff we lie with the number of keycard (-1) and pull the signoff (while still showing some slam interest or not). Its far from perfect but its a reasonable solution for hands that happen once a year.
Its also possible to pull a signoff if you have a solid suit. 6331 you show 6S and stiff clubs partner keyc in H and soff in 4H, 4S is showing solid spades so it might allow you to avoid slow H loser if you can discard the 3rd H on club or on a 4th diamond.
No offence but I am unwilling to read the whole system file every time just for a specific sequence. Just this once though, let me see if I have it right:-
1C = 15+ bal, or 15-17 with 5+M, or 16+ with clubs, or 23+ with a major, or 24+ with diamonds
... - 2C = 6+ diamonds, no other 4 card suit, weak or GF
2D = 15-20, any except 6+M and diamond shortage
... - 3D = GF with a club void (other voids possible but rare)
4C = RKCB agreeing spades
... - 5C = 2 key cards with ♠Q and ♦K, no ♥K
5D = ♦Q?
... - 5S = yes, ♦Q but no ♥Q
5NT = what else?
... - 6D = 2 spades and either 8 diamonds or ♦AKQxxxx [the latter was already shown, no?]
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Cool link by the way. I did not realise ordinary players could make their FD CCs public. I wonder if it has the same size limit as on BBO or whether you can upload a full file.
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