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Posted 2012-January-28, 19:53

Why isn't 3♠ simply a competitive bid, or maybe a game invitation? 19-20 seems unnecessary.
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Posted 2012-January-28, 20:35

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-January-28, 19:53, said:

Why isn't 3♠ simply a competitive bid, or maybe a game invitation? 19-20 seems unnecessary.



not sure but it seems that 3s if 19-20 must have been a slam try across from 10-12 tp.

I am guessing here but maybe?


3s=slam try
4s=game, dont bother to invite across from 10-12 TP?
which means you must pass and let pard balance here?
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Posted 2012-January-29, 01:28

I agree with competitive, game invite should be via double.

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Posted 2012-January-29, 09:19

View Postmike777, on 2012-January-28, 20:35, said:

not sure but it seems that 3s if 19-20 must have been a slam try across from 10-12 tp.

I am guessing here but maybe?

3s=slam try
4s=game, dont bother to invite across from 10-12 TP?
which means you must pass and let pard balance here?
I don't know what 4♠ would have been, since 9 of the 10 Souths bid 3♠ despite (or, more likely, without previewing) the explanation. The other South passed as you suggest and ended up in 4♠.
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Posted 2012-February-06, 10:23

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-January-28, 19:53, said:

Why isn't 3♠ simply a competitive bid, or maybe a game invitation? 19-20 seems unnecessary.


Looks like bug, which ignores the voluntary jump to 2♠ from none-passed hand. If partner was initially passed ( which doesn't change much the 2♠ meaning ), it handles, showing more accurate meaning of 3♠ which is 13-15TP and 4th♠.

It will be fixed.

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Posted 2012-February-06, 16:12

View Postgeorgi, on 2012-February-06, 10:23, said:

Looks like bug, which ignores the voluntary jump to 2♠ from none-passed hand. If partner was initially passed ( which doesn't change much the 2♠ meaning ), it handles, showing more accurate meaning of 3♠ which is 13-15TP and 4th♠.

Georgi: Do you have the "none-passed" and "initially passed" explanations switched here?
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Posted 2012-February-06, 19:37

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-February-06, 16:12, said:

Georgi: Do you have the "none-passed" and "initially passed" explanations switched here?


Correct, thank you. Reversed meaning.
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