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#1 User is offline   Flame 

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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:23

Scoring: MP

i opened 1c and it cont
1c (1H) 1NT (2H)
what should i bid now ?
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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:27

I would bid an easy 2♠.

Since my double in this position is negative, i will use it having 4♠ in a strong hand.
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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:34

Poky, on Oct 22 2004, 08:27 PM, said:

I would bid an easy 2♠.

Since my double in this position is negative, i will use it having 4♠ in a strong hand.

Isnt 2sp a reverse bid showing stronger hand ?
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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:45

which is a good reason for opening 1s to start with... but given the actual bidding, i'd bid 2s also... if pard for some reason jumps to 4s, i'll just hafta do my best
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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:49

luke warm, on Oct 22 2004, 08:45 PM, said:

which is a good reason for opening 1s to start with... but given the actual bidding, i'd bid 2s also... if pard for some reason jumps to 4s, i'll just hafta do my best

with clubs and spades many open 1c even with 5-5, so with 6-5 i go with clubs for sure.
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Posted 2004-October-22, 19:54

sure i know... not saying you're wrong to do that.. i'm kinda beginning to like this canape stuff tho
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Posted 2004-October-22, 20:38

I have a weird response for you.

Pass.

The bidding isn't over, there are far too many points missing. Even if the bidding comes back at you at 4♥, you won't be too unhappy to think about 4♠ since your partner has not much or has already doubled 4♥. 5026 is a pretty good shape to be saccing with.

I know a lot of people will disagree with this answer, but it is another choice.

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Posted 2004-October-23, 04:00

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I have a weird response for you.

Pass.

I fully agree, 2S gives completely wrong impression: "bridge is a partnership game". Thank God I don't have this problem: I open 2♠ (Muiderberg).
Not playing Muiderberg I would open 1♠.
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Posted 2004-October-23, 05:13

pass, exaggerate ur strength twice is not a good idea. If u bid 2S, either pd will dbl 3H, which probably will make, or you will bid to game and goes down. This is the problem with light opening.
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Posted 2004-October-23, 07:59

This was partner's hand

I passed, sure i really wanted to bid something but didnt think of anything i can.
they made 2h+1 for 140, and we got 0 mp.
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Posted 2004-October-23, 08:23

I wouldn't open this hand because:
-promblems with rebid
-I have 2 suiteted overcalls so bidding will be very easy when I pass first.
-bad club suit
-Only 9HCP (if I count ♦K). I will have a problem when my pard doubles their contract.
Sorry, my english is not perfect :(
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Posted 2004-October-23, 08:24

I don't like partner's 1NT bid much. It looks much easier to simply support ♣. I figure with 5 cards in overcaller's suits opener is almost bound to have at least 5♣.

Having said that, I think that you must really bid 2♠ here. It is encumbent on the player short in opponents' suit to act. If you pass, partner will almost always have no bid to make.

For those who open 1♠, I ask what happens if the bidding goes 1♠ (2♥) P (P) back to you? Now you are in an even worse position than if you had opend 1♣!

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Posted 2004-October-23, 09:11

Flame, on Oct 23 2004, 01:59 PM, said:

This was partner's hand

I passed, sure i really wanted to bid something but didnt think of anything i can.
they made 2h+1 for 140, and we got 0 mp.

why 2h+1 is so good for them? dont they have some play in 3N?
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Posted 2004-October-23, 09:26

flytoox, on Oct 23 2004, 10:11 AM, said:

Flame, on Oct 23 2004, 01:59 PM, said:

This was partner's hand
Dealer: ?????
Vul: ????
Scoring: Unknown
♠ 104
♥ J7652
♦ J74
♣ AQ6
 

I passed, sure i really wanted to bid something but didnt think of anything i can.
they made 2h+1 for 140, and we got 0 mp.

why 2h+1 is so good for them? dont they have some play in 3N?

No not even close. we can probebly make 5 club.
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Posted 2004-October-23, 10:02

2♠
foole me once, shame one you!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
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Posted 2004-October-23, 10:02

Since I can't bid 2S now, I would have opened 1S.

In my partnerships, opening a minor and then showing a five card major (e.g. 1C-1H-1S-1NT-2S) shows serious extras. I would open 1C on Jxxxx - Kx AJ10xxx, but it is unlikely that I can show my 5-card spade suit in that case.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2004-October-24, 00:05

I will not open. I open a hand with Bergen count of 20 when HCP is at least 10 with no wasted honor. But I agree that 1C is a better opening than 1S.

Now that I have opened 1C, I would bid 2S (and wish pd would not take it as a reverse).
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Posted 2004-October-24, 14:06

HeartA, on Oct 24 2004, 06:05 AM, said:

I will not open. I open a hand with Bergen count of 20 when HCP is at least 10 with no wasted honor. But I agree that 1C is a better opening than 1S.

Now that I have opened 1C, I would bid 2S (and wish pd would not take it as a reverse).

I would take it as reverese if i were ur pd,hehe.
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  Posted 2004-October-24, 17:44

flytoox, on Oct 24 2004, 03:06 PM, said:

I would take it as reverese if i were ur pd,hehe.

Good, we will get to 5C then. ;)
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Posted 2004-October-26, 06:48

bid 2S. Sometimes you take chances in life. you are 6-5 with 5 spades, you must not pass here.
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