[scoob]

Scoring: IMP

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[Flame]

What is your goal contract ? 6H is not a good contract, i think most normal bidding will get you to 4/5 heart .
In my system (polish club) it will begin with
1♣-1♦
2♥
which show 8 tricks hand, partner although having a nice hand can not see a source for 12 trick, the continuation can change but i think 5H will be the limit.
give me a Q more (even the Q of spade) and i might go to slam and probebly go down there.

[HeartA]

This is a simlpe hand:
1H-2H-4H.

Or if you want it more complicated:
1H-2H-3D-3H-3S-4H-PPP

[tysen2k]

scoob, on Oct 26 2004, 01:13 PM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP

♠ 9432 ♥ K93 ♦ 5 ♣ 96542 ♠ A ♥ AQ8752 ♦ AJ74 ♣ AJ

1[cl] - art. strong
 [space] 1[di] - neg
1[he] - either balanced or 2-suited with better hearts
 [space] 1[sp] - 2nd neg or balanced
2[di] - 5+[he], 4+[di], not GF
 [space] 2[he]
4[he]

[flytoox]

HeartA, on Oct 26 2004, 06:23 PM, said:

This is a simlpe hand:
1H-2H-4H.

Or if you want it to more complicated:
1H-2H-3D-3H-3S-4H-PPP

Cant agree more. wonder what is more can be said about this hand, couldnt find.

[Flame]

tysen2k, on Oct 26 2004, 01:27 PM, said:

scoob, on Oct 26 2004, 01:13 PM, said:

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1[cl] - art. strong
 [space] 1[di] - neg
1[he] - either balanced or 2-suited with better hearts
 [space] 1[sp] - 2nd neg or balanced
2[di] - 5+[he], 4+[di], not GF
 [space] 2[he]
4[he]

Basically opener bid 4H alone here , partner didnt show anything , only neg and second neg, and 2h maybe third neg. Maybe 3h to invite is better but not sure.

[whereagles]

I like to open 2C rather light, so with my live pard I would bid it

2C 2D (0-2 controls)
2H 4H
pass

[tysen2k]

Flame, on Oct 26 2004, 01:58 PM, said:

Basically opener bid 4H alone here , partner didnt show anything , only neg and second neg, and 2h maybe third neg. Maybe 3h to invite is better but not sure.

Yeah, pretty much, but aggressive games pay off. I'll gamble that game is on given that partner has shown heart support with 2♥.

[pclayton]

2♣ - 2♦
2♥ - 3♥
4♥ - All Pass

1. 2♣ = 5+ controls and 4-5 losers (usually 19-21 HCP)
2. 2♦ = 0-1 control
3. If pard can't cover a single loser, then no game
4. Close between 3♥ and 4♦. If the hand had a 4th heart, then a splinter would be in order.

[bearmum]

scoob, on Oct 27 2004, 07:13 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP

♠ 9432 ♥ K93 ♦ 5 ♣ 96542 ♠ A ♥ AQ8752 ♦ AJ74 ♣ AJ

Precision (as my husband and I play it)
1♣ 16+
1♦ <8
2♥ lots of points ♥ suit -- forcing for 1 round
3♥ not slam going -- showing 3♥
4♥

Simple

[HeartA]

Jlall, on Oct 26 2004, 04:12 PM, said:

1H 2H
3D 3H
4H

cannot even fathom a different sequence...?

This is a subsequence of what I gave

[Flame]

I just now realise that maybe your question (ur target contract) wasnt 6H but 4H, maybe you had the bidding
1♥ pass
Without 4 card spade this wouldnt be that bad and if i play a system that 2h show 8-10, but 1nt is only semiforcing, pass might just be the alternative i would choose, espcially at MP. but with 4 card spade u can bid 1sp and then bid a very weak 2H (usually doublton support)
I think in Ben's system they have 2c for this.

[HeartA]

In my system, 1♠ and then 2♥ shows stronger hand and usually has 2 ♥ only. With weak hand and 3+ support of pd's opening major, I show support immediately. As for this hand, 3-card support with an honor and a stiff, 2♥ is a no-brainer.

[Antoine Fourrière]

1♥ 3♥
4♥

3♥ suggests four trumps, but 2♥ suggests more high-card strength. I prefer partner to bid game with extra distribution rather than with extra strength. And the opponents may also get overboard.

[jtfanclub]

scoob, on Oct 26 2004, 01:13 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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1C (Prec) 1D(Weak)
2H (8-9 tricks and good hearts) 4H (Superweak (0-4) signoff with support)

I'm not even considering slam, sorry.

Now, let me see what everyone else wrote.

[HeartA]

For this hand, precision and sayc (or 2/1) makes no difference. In my version of precision, jump over 1♦ response is the same as a 2♣ opening in sayc. And this hand does not qualify for 1♣-1♦-2♥. I would bid 2♥ whether my pd opens 1♥ (sayc or 2/1 ...) or 1♣ then 1♥ over my 1♦ (precision).

[Fluffy]

1♥-1NT F1R (or 1♠ as I play it).
2NT-4♥ 2NT being game forcing, 4♥ 4-7 with 3♥.

OR alternativelly

1♥-pass

[joker_gib]

2♥ - 2♠
3♦ - 4♥

2♥ : strong with ♥ (5+) and another or Muiderberg in ♠+minor
2♠ relay
3♦ : strong with ♥ and ♦
4♥ to play !