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18hcp, do you raise partner?

#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2011-December-18, 11:11



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Do you like the double?, what now?
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Posted 2011-December-18, 12:29

View Postjillybean, on 2011-December-18, 11:11, said:



MP

Do you like the double?, what now?




agree with x...5c now.


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Posted 2011-December-18, 13:22

Yes for X and yes for carrying onto game. We only have to make 40% of them vulnerable to show a profit so I think that I can take the risk that PD has a couple of useful cards.

EDIT: my bad for the 40% since I thought this was IMPs, but I still raise at MP.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 14:26

View Postneilkaz, on 2011-December-18, 13:22, said:

Yes for X and yes for carrying onto game.


I'm going to game via a 4♠ cuebid.

Unlikely we can bid slam but it could make opposite the K♦ and 6 petunia clubs so I'll give pard a chance in case they have a bit more than that.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 14:48

perfect double, I raise to 5 also, but could go for a number.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 15:09



-2 Oh well, I thought I had to bid it.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 15:26

View Postjillybean, on 2011-December-18, 15:09, said:



-2 Oh well, I thought I had to bid it.




4s is an easy make for opp


2h 1d

some may open 4s in third seat at fav vul with that hand.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 15:38

View Postjillybean, on 2011-December-18, 15:09, said:



-2 Oh well, I thought I had to bid it.

you just need to switch EW cards a bit for slam to be cold so no need to worry, its not like 3♠ opening non vul vs vul is a great indicator or bad breaks.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 17:22

So you got to game with 24 hcp and an eight card fit and the trumps broke 5=0 - bad luck.

I wouldn't worry too much more about this one.

Game seems to need little more than the trumps breaking then you can count five club tricks (with a ruff), four diamond tricks (even if the finesse loses) and two top hearts.

5♣ is a normal middle of the road bid.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 20:25

If you don't raise on this hand, what are you going to raise on?
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Posted 2011-December-18, 21:06

Yeh, I would bid 5C, also. But I am confused by the post where someone mentions 40% games and vulnerability at matchpoints; and the post which points out the opps can make 420 while we are going for 500.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 21:13

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“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2011-December-18, 21:30

View Postaguahombre, on 2011-December-18, 21:06, said:

Yeh, I would bid 5C, also. But I am confused by the post where someone mentions 40% games and vulnerability at matchpoints; and the post which points out the opps can make 420 while we are going for 500.



I should have spelled it out....expect some to play in 3sx or 4sx making......minus 500 maybe avg or better. :)
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Posted 2011-December-18, 22:42

View Postmike777, on 2011-December-18, 21:30, said:

...expect some to play in 3sx or 4sx making......minus 500 maybe avg or better. :)

Well, it shouldn't be a zero, but avg or better might be a bit optimistic. West could choose to open 4S at this position and colors. It certainly looks more like a 4S shot than the hand on this thread.
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Posted 2011-December-19, 00:53

X - what else?
5C - what else?

-? - next bord

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