[Fluffy]

billw55, on 2011-November-29, 12:10, said:

but wouldn't partner lead the ♦J from JT8xxx with 9xx in dummy? With the related question of why he didn't return a heart.

Leading the Jack from J108xx(x) with 9xx in dummy is optional, some holdings like AQx or KQx in declarer´s hand can work better if you lead low, specially when partner has a singleton honnor. This wasn´t one of this moments actually and the Jack is what he should had returned cos he lacks the entry (on the hand I had in mind: 5-5-2-1 with ♣A)

Perhaps I should had spend more time fixing the hand into something rock solid

[MrAce]

Fluffy, on 2011-November-30, 02:49, said:

I´m happy that your lack of understanding of the hand leads you to have a happy laugh, however some would say that you should check what you say before trolling to share it in public, or you might look like a fool.

[billw55]

OK Fluffy I give up. What is really happening on this hand?

[Fluffy]

I was hoping you played RHO for 5521, with ♦KQ and ♣A or perhaps singleton. But this hand is made up (cooked), on the real hand declarer had ducked ♦A stupidly allowing me to switch back to hearts thinking about rectifying the count or blocking the suit not seeing that he would lose 5 club tricks on the proccess, and partner had switched holding another heart wich is also a mistake. Declarer had 5431 with ♣A stiff.

It seems from the coments that I didn´t success on my hand transformation, so the best play might perhaps be a diamond back in case declarer is nuts and has ♦Qx(x). Or more likelly ♦KQ and not ♣A to get more downs when partner wins ♣A. I still think ♥Q covers much more common hands (with imperfect plays from partner), only allowing declarer to make on a very specific holding (see han´s post).

But if someone at least considers leading a king to knock a doubleton ace from dummy then I will have succeed on my purpose.


From all the coments I´ve seen, the only one I don´t buy is that ♦Q from declarer means he cannot have something. Declarer can play the queen right or wrong, and if the queen makes you make a decision it automatically makes it a right card to play form certain holdings, and more likelly, declarer can make mistakes!

[billw55]

Thanks Fluffy.

I think the biggest flaw in the composition is partner's lead of specifically the ♦2 instead of a higher diamond. It is one thing to allow for declarer's mistakes, and entirely another to allow for partner's.

[Vampyr]

billw55, on 2011-December-01, 08:42, said:

I think the biggest flaw in the composition is partner's lead of specifically the ♦2 instead of a higher diamond. It is one thing to allow for declarer's mistakes, and entirely another to allow for partner's.

Yes, I would rather lose points by trusting partner even when masterminding would have worked. Will be better in the long term.

[Fluffy]

yeah I though leading the jack would make it too obvious, I even switched to put ♦9 in dummy wich wasn´t originally, but had I put ♦10 it would had been even better.

[phil_20686]

Fluffy, on 2011-November-28, 17:42, said:

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You lead ♥3 (4th best) and partner wins ♥K, partner returns ♦2 (attitude) declarer plays ♦Q, how do you defend?

I dont really understand this problem I think. If I thought my partner was basically hopeless I would return the heart Q. If my partner can play I would expect him to realise that if he has another heart and the club ace he should return one. Of course, if he doesnt have another heart it might be right to return the heart Q. Again, if I can trust the opps It should be 100% that partner has another heart.

Why would a good defender, holding the ace of clubs, return a diamond rather than a heart? Well possibly he expects to be able to set up the diamonds. RHO could be coking it up with Qxx diamonds. I have seen worse bids than 3N on AKQJx Jxxx Qxx A. Of course, if thsi is the hand the Qh works too. If declarer has KQx diamonds and stiff club ace the contract is cold now.

might partner reasonably expect me to hold AQx in the diamond suit? perhaps, but if he is playing for that the J is certainly clearer. If declarer holds KQT diamonds and stiff club ace, everything makes sense and partner has found a legitimate defence if he thinks declarer is 2-2 in the minors with Kx. One legitimate answer is that partner has two club tricks, ATxx, and so is saving his heart exit for later. That would make RHO 5440. That makes quite a lot of sense. You might bid 3N on some poor 5440 on the grounds that 3c isnt necessarily any better. In that case a diamond return works best.

I can easily beleive that partner might switch to a diamond in good faith as it were hoping that we can run the diamonds, if he has xxx in the clubs suit. On that grounds I will switch back to the heart Q. The whole layout makes perfect sense if rho has KQTD and stiff A clubs.

[dwar0123]

As a B/I player who looked at this hand without reading any comments first, I am leading back the Q♥. The rest of the analyses that would suggest something different is, at the playing table, beyond me.

[vuroth]

Late to the party but....

Spoiler

2♦ means partner isn't fond of diamonds, right? In that case, why not A♦ then Q♥ to cut declarer's entry?

[mike777]

We are told we play att leads so the 2d means partner loves diamonds and has something useful not just length. With only long d he would lead back a higher diamond or maybe even return a h if he had one. Pard can see the long clubs and AH entry issue as well from his side of the table. That is the purpose and gain of playing att. leads.

That is why the switch to the 2d of all cards makes this a tough problem.

[Antrax]

Playing standard, 2♦ says partner loves diamonds (as in, would like a diamond return).