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Posted 2011-November-14, 17:56

1D-(P)-1H-(P)
1NT-(2C)-2C

2C is not accepted
Since 3C is a narrower category than 2C and all 3C bids are also 2C bids. Is it ok to allow a 3C correction ?

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Posted 2011-November-14, 18:18

Since we would have to add a possibility to 3C (balanced raise to 3nt with a club stop), the premise doesn't seem to apply.
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Posted 2011-November-15, 00:20

It depends on your agreement about 3♣. If it's only game forcing NMF, then the correction is allowed for the reason the OP stated. But if it could be something else, e.g. asking or showing a ♣ stop as aguahombre suggests, then it should be disallowed.

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Posted 2011-November-15, 08:58

They had no special agreements, for standard bidder 3C is surely nmf here. Asking for a stopper or showing a stopper is useless here. with 4342 you can bid 3D and with 4333 its near pointless to ask for a stopper. (only if opener is 3442/3352 asking a stopper might work)

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Posted 2011-November-15, 09:18

 benlessard, on 2011-November-15, 08:58, said:

They had no special agreements, for standard bidder 3C is surely nmf here. Asking for a stopper or showing a stopper is useless here. with 4342 you can bid 3D and with 4333 its near pointless to ask for a stopper. (only if opener is 3442/3352 asking a stopper might work)

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Does this post need editing?

1D(P)1M(P)
1N(2c)..Is it pointless to ask for a stopper with 4333 to avoid the opponents running 5 clubs vs. 3nt?

The point about responder being able to rebid 3D over 2C with 4-3-4-2 has a small hole, also. 3D is not forcing.
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