Had these two tonight. Pity I was not playing high stakes rubber. What decisions would you make?
Hand 1
AKQ
Q
AKJ9
AKJTx
1C 1D
2D 3D
?
1C = Polish, 1D = negative, 2D = gf any, 3D = 0-5 transfer to H - excludes 4-5 points and a 6 card suit.
Hand 2
ATx
KQx
AKQx
AKx
1C (P) 1D (1S)
2S (P) 4H
1C = Polish, 1D = neg, 2S = gf but 1 S stop only tolerance for other 3 suits,
4H = no S stopper long H
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2 Polish Club hands
#1
Posted 2004-October-12, 08:30
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#2
Posted 2004-October-12, 08:36
I don't know Polish club, but tnx to the good explanations I have a feeling where I want to play. Did you seriously get these two bunkers in 1 night??
1) I think I'd bid 3NT, unless it has another meaning than natural.
2) Probably some Ace-asking thingy, or 5♥ invitational for slam.
1) I think I'd bid 3NT, unless it has another meaning than natural.
2) Probably some Ace-asking thingy, or 5♥ invitational for slam.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#3
Posted 2004-October-12, 08:39
"Did you seriously get these two bunkers in 1 night?? "
Yep!
"2) Probably some Ace-asking thingy, or 5♥ invitational for slam."
He won't have an Ace Frederick.
Yep!
"2) Probably some Ace-asking thingy, or 5♥ invitational for slam."
He won't have an Ace Frederick.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#4
Posted 2004-October-12, 08:49
1) 3NT I guess.. If partner has five is he likely to bid again?
2) Pass.. where I can see 11 tricks, I always like to think that I have a very good chance I can make a 12th if I am not off two quick tricks. Here however a spade lead will knock out my spade stopper before I go after trumps,,,, When they take the heart ace, they will be able to grab a spade trick unless partner has the perfect hand (singleton Spade (is that possible here)), or no more that 2S and 2D or 1D and 3S so I can get a pitch, or the highly unlikley 2S and 1C.
2) Pass.. where I can see 11 tricks, I always like to think that I have a very good chance I can make a 12th if I am not off two quick tricks. Here however a spade lead will knock out my spade stopper before I go after trumps,,,, When they take the heart ace, they will be able to grab a spade trick unless partner has the perfect hand (singleton Spade (is that possible here)), or no more that 2S and 2D or 1D and 3S so I can get a pitch, or the highly unlikley 2S and 1C.
--Ben--
#5
Posted 2004-October-12, 08:56
The_Hog, on Oct 12 2004, 09:30 AM, said:
Had these two tonight. Pity I was not playing high stakes rubber.
i cant even see a small slam on this hands, on hand 1 im not even sure game makes, but this sentence suggest its 2 slams:)))
foole me once, shame one you!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
#7
Posted 2004-October-12, 09:07
1. 3nt
2. if i have a way to ask about singlton spade in partner's hand , like maybe 5h, or just cue bidding 5c which partner will understand as luck of spade control for slam, then i will bid it, else i pass.
2. if i have a way to ask about singlton spade in partner's hand , like maybe 5h, or just cue bidding 5c which partner will understand as luck of spade control for slam, then i will bid it, else i pass.
#8
Posted 2004-October-12, 16:26
On the first hand 3N was best. Pd had the proverbial pile of....
Jx
Txxxx
Txx
xxx
On the second - I am nor so sure it is right to give up on slam
Given that 2S was a gf, how many hearts is pd likely to have for his 4H bid?
I passed 4H and pd was pretty critical. He held
xx
J9xxxxx
Jx
xx
His comment was that with fewer H he would have bid 3 and then 4. I am not so sure about this reasoning. Comments anybody?
Interesting to pick up these 2 monsters within 3 boards.
Jx
Txxxx
Txx
xxx
On the second - I am nor so sure it is right to give up on slam
Given that 2S was a gf, how many hearts is pd likely to have for his 4H bid?
I passed 4H and pd was pretty critical. He held
xx
J9xxxxx
Jx
xx
His comment was that with fewer H he would have bid 3 and then 4. I am not so sure about this reasoning. Comments anybody?
Interesting to pick up these 2 monsters within 3 boards.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#9
Posted 2004-October-12, 20:08
Since you're in a GF auction, it's quite logical that partner will use 3♥ stronger than 4♥. However, your partner promisses at least 6 ♥'s (no?), which makes this hand really attractive to slam. If he has a 7th ♥ or just ♥A you have slam without any problems... If you use an Ace-asking bid, I think you'll end up in 5♥, if you use invitational, it depends on weither you consider this garbage as good or not...
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#10
Posted 2004-October-13, 02:15
Hum... if the 4H bid I supposed to show solid but weakish hearts (something like QJTxxxx), then opener, looking at KQx of hearts, has reasons to suspect responder either misbid or has like 8 or 9 hearts to the jack. Pard may have a point in being cross, but he also doesn't seem to have his bid either
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