[mcphee]

Opening this hand is not the end of the world and violates no laws. I'm quite open about bidding with this hand type, although I think I might pass this as I doubt I will get shut out. To my consdierations is "what would you do if partner made a F raise of S, and you had some interference"? Considering that idea I simply feel it is easier to pass.
I would never consider," even in a drunken stupor" bidding 4C in serach of the magic hand, nor 4D which just might end up getting you to the 5 level which might fail when it is possible partner could have a 3 card major suit raise, a prime concern must be 3 card support. To expect to have a slam on these cards is just wishful thinking when partner bid 2S and not 3 and may lead to a loss of 11 imps far more often than a gain. As Barry Crane said, "what ever cards you are playing me for, I don't have"
I could go much furhter into this particular reasoning, but will happily leave the percentages to the math people.

[jtfanclub]

helium, on Oct 13 2004, 05:12 AM, said:

This was news to me also and i think its rater silly if u cant open 1 ♠on this hand, and what if u do it as a spyke?

Arrrgh.

Deliberately misdescribing your hand in order to get around the rules is not going to win you many friends among TDs.