[jmcw]

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Matchpoints white vs red. 2/1, 15-17NT Your call?.
If you open a minor what do you rebid over a Major response?

[hrothgar]

jmcw, on 2011-November-04, 10:23, said:

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Matchpoints white vs red. 2/1, 15-17NT Your call?.
If you open a minor what do you rebid over a Major response?

I'd probably open 1♦, intending to rebid 2♣ over 1♠ and 2♥ over 1♥

I toyed with the idea of 1NT and would probably open 1N if I had the stiff K of Spades

[aguahombre]

hrothgar, on 2011-November-04, 10:28, said:

I'd probably open 1♦, intending to rebid 2♣ over 1♠ and 2♥ over 1♥

I toyed with the idea of 1NT and would probably open 1N if I had the stiff K of Spades

Yeh, me also. Wouldn't shoot someone who opened 1NT, but I firmly believe that if one opens 1NT he/she should be prepared to accept a transfer in-tempo and not go about compounding the problem by breaking the transfer.

[mike777]

Prefer 1nt but pard expects us to open alot of offshape hands.


Our one level bids can be quite a wide range. The reason to open offshape nt hands it to reduce the number of semibalanced hands in the range of 14-16 that are opened at the one level to make our one level bids a bit more limited.

Your example is a problem for us if we otherwise open at the one level but change the QS to JS I would also open 1d and follow up as others.

[ArtK78]

mike777, on 2011-November-04, 11:17, said:

Prefer 1nt but pard expects us to open alot of offshape hands.


Our one level bids can be quite a wide range. The reason to open offshape nt hands it to reduce the number of semibalanced hands in the range of 14-16 that are opened at the one level to make our one level bids a bit more limited.

Your example is a problem for us if we otherwise open at the one level but change the QS to JS I would also open 1d and follow up as others.

With all due respect, this is not what a 1NT opening bid looks like, no matter what your range is.

I can see opening 1♦ and rebidding 2♣. I can also see opening 1♣ and rebidding 1NT over a 1♠ response (assuming that partner won't go nuts on 5 good or 6 mediocre spades). I would raise a 1♥ response to 2♥.

In my regular partnership, we frequently raise a major suit response on 3 cards if the hand is suitable. So partner is not going to rebid a 5 card major all that often over a 1NT rebid.

[quiddity]

ArtK78, on 2011-November-04, 11:50, said:

With all due respect, this is not what a 1NT opening bid looks like, no matter what your range is.

It looks like 1NT to me.

[MickyB]

I'd open 1NT, this hand is less painful than the same hand with a stiff ♠J. I prefer to play methods that allow me to open 1C and not have a rebid problem.

[pooltuna]

Q1] 1♦
Q2] either 2♣ (over 1♠) or 2♥ (over 1♥)

[inquiry]

If I am going to open a minor, I open 1♦. At matchpoints, I would also open this 1 NT with most partners. Should I have a partner who would freak out if I opened this 1 NT, then of course, I would open 1♦. At imps, VUL I would open 1♦ confident that we wouldn't miss a game if one was available after my 2♣ rebid. At imps not vul, i would probably go back and open 1 NT again.

If the hand was just a bit stronger, I would open 1♣ planning on rebidding 2♦. Say change the spade queen to the club queen (same distribution) plus the nine of diamonds or the Ten of clubs, or another minor suit face card with same holding.

[barmar]

I know some people like it, but I'm not a fan of opening 1♦ on 4=5 minors, so I generally open 1♣ and live with the rebid problems. Opening 1♦ and rebidding 2♣ seems like a good way to end up in a 6- or 7-card fit when you could have been in an 8-card fit.

In the case of this hand, I don't have a problem rebidding 1NT if partner bids spades, since my singleton is an honor, or raising hearts with 3-card support. So I open 1♣.

[mike777]

I have a big problem rebidding 1nt after a 1s response but this must be a good problem.

You got 3 different opening bids, plus a rash of different rebids by posters.

For other posters making a small change means a different opening bid or rebid.

[kenrexford]

1NT for me, and no close second. Well, 1♣...2♣ is a distant second.

[JLOGIC]

1N

[gnasher]

I'd open 1NT. My second choice would be 1♣, planning to reverse.

[MrAce]

ArtK78, on 2011-November-04, 11:50, said:

With all due respect, this is not what a 1NT opening bid looks like, no matter what your range is.

With all due respect it is 1NT for me too.

It always surprises me to see people who thinks this doesnt look like a 1NT opener but it is ok to open canape (i can live with that compared to followings), or it is ok to rebid this ♣ suit. Or even worse, rebidding 1NT with this. I wont even mention the preemptive value of 1NT when we are looking at 3-1 majors in our hand.

[the hog]

1D. I don't mind 1NT. I dislike 1C as the hand is nowhere near strong enough to reverse, and to rebid 2C on such a motheaten suit is not to my taste.

[Hanoi5]

What shall we do over a transfer to spades if we opened 1NT?

[hrothgar]

Hanoi5, on 2011-November-04, 18:45, said:

What shall we do over a transfer to spades if we opened 1NT?

Well, a super accept seems out of the question, so methinks I would accept the transfer

[jmcw]

mike777, on 2011-November-04, 15:19, said:

I have a big problem rebidding 1nt after a 1s response but this must be a good problem.

You got 3 different opening bids, plus a rash of different rebids by posters.

For other posters making a small change means a different opening bid or rebid.

The responses have surprised me too.

With all respect...none more than the suggestion to bid 1m - 1♥ - 2♥.
Seems to me that this is doubly flawed. On its own I don't object to a 3 card raise, but when combined with 16 HCP a simple raise doesn't do justice to the overall potential of the hand.

[jmcw]

Hanoi5, on 2011-November-04, 18:45, said:

What shall we do over a transfer to spades if we opened 1NT?

Bid 2♠