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making 6C? or would you even be there?

#1 User is offline   Flem72 

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Posted 2011-October-25, 17:40

IMPs, E-W vul, S deals:

Jxxx
AQJx
K
KQxx

void
Kx
AJTxxx
J9xxx

P- P- 1C-1S
2D-2S-P- P
4C-P-4H-P
4S-P-4N-P
6C

1. Feel free to let it fly re: the bidding; where would you end up?
2. How do you plan to make 6C w/AS led?

Regards and Happy Trails,

Scott Needham
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EDIT: You're missing AT8x in C; Ds are 4 to Q W; SNT, vanilla SA.

This post has been edited by Flem72: 2011-October-25, 17:44

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Posted 2011-October-29, 08:45

Of course you'd expect to be in 6C especially with that mediocre spades sequence- expect nothing terrible in the breaks.
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Posted 2011-October-29, 08:51

Basic plan is to ruff 3S and pitch one on the diamond ace. The key is to avoid a trump promotion when diamonds are 4-2 with diamonds in the hand with 4. I think it is right to ruff the lead in hand and play a club to the Q at once. If this holds you ruff a spade cross to the kD ruff a third spade and play the J of clubs from hand. Whatever happens you are home now as if the clubs are 3-1 the hand that wins the club ace cannot give a trump promotion.

If the Q of clubs is won and a club returned you can insert the 9 and now you have enough high trumps to void the chance of an over ruff.

If trumps are 40 I will have to rethink, but I still have several viable options.
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Posted 2011-October-29, 12:25

View Postphil_20686, on 2011-October-29, 08:51, said:

Basic plan is to ruff 3S and pitch one on the diamond ace. The key is to avoid a trump promotion when diamonds are 4-2 with diamonds in the hand with 4. I think it is right to ruff the lead in hand and play a club to the Q at once. If this holds you ruff a spade cross to the kD ruff a third spade and play the J of clubs from hand. Whatever happens you are home now as if the clubs are 3-1 the hand that wins the club ace cannot give a trump promotion.

If the Q of clubs is won and a club returned you can insert the 9 and now you have enough high trumps to void the chance of an over ruff.

If trumps are 40 I will have to rethink, but I still have several viable options.


Screwed up the diagram b/c N declares. However, if you ruff the lead and play C to the Q, E takes A and returns the C8.

2nd SCREWUP NOTICE: I tried the little thingy that hides the layout etc, but failed miserably. Didn't mean to disclose D layout at the outset.
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Posted 2011-October-30, 09:50

IMPs, E-W vul, S deals:

Jxxx
AQJx
K
KQxx

void
Kx
AJTxxx
J9xxx

P- P- 1C-1S
2D-2S-P- P
4C-P-4H-P
4S-P-4N-P
6C

1. Feel free to let it fly re: the bidding; where would you end up?
2. How do you plan to make 6C w/AS led?
missing AT8x in clubs.

I would start with ruff trick one play a dia to the K and lead a low club
toward the J (this caters to E having singleton A as well as all 22 trump
breaks in which case we can claim via ruffing 2 more spades). If J holds lead
another club and if they break 3/1 and lead another trump we now depend
on the dia suit. we cant cash out the hearts to get a count due to entry
problems but we can assume E probably started with 6 spades and w 3 (W
would probably prefer a 3s bid to 2s if they had 4 spades). So see who has
what in trumps and decide if dia more likely to be 33 or 4/2 and play for drop
or take ruffing finesse according to the count.
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Posted 2011-November-07, 15:11

I think this would be a tough slam not to bid after opening the South hand...

1D = 10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbal
... - 1H = INV+ relay
1S = min, 0-3 spades unless 4441 or 4450
... - 1N = GF relay
2C = 4+ clubs
... - 2D = relay
2S = 5+ diamonds, 5+ clubs
... - 2N = relay
3N = 6+ diamonds, spade void
... - 4C = relay
4H = 3 controls
... - 4S = relay
5C = diamond control, no club control
... - 6C

At least this sequence would fix your diagram though since South is now declarer. :) I am guessing this sequence would also detract from a spade lead...
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Posted 2011-November-07, 17:28

View Postphil_20686, on 2011-October-29, 08:51, said:

Basic plan is to ruff 3S and pitch one on the diamond ace. The key is to avoid a trump promotion when diamonds are 4-2 with diamonds in the hand with 4. I think it is right to ruff the lead in hand and play a club to the Q at once. If this holds you ruff a spade cross to the kD ruff a third spade and play the J of clubs from hand. Whatever happens you are home now as if the clubs are 3-1 the hand that wins the club ace cannot give a trump promotion.

Did you forget to cash A before playing the second trump?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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