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Posted 2011-October-19, 22:11

If you expect to get only one spade ruff, isn't it right to immediately set up that ruff, then pitch two spades on the high clubs and hope to set up the fourth diamond on a 3-3 split?

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Posted 2011-October-19, 22:41

It could have expected the lead to be from a singleton.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 09:24

Your plan results in losing 2 diamonds and 2 spades, down 1. I think it was trying to hold its diamond losers to 1. But I haven't thought its line through completely, maybe that just trades another spade loser for the damond.

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Posted 2011-October-20, 09:45

Yes, depending on skill level of opponents you might try to duck a spade immediately and hope they don't continue trumps. You can then ruff TWO spades and make on a 3-3 diamond split.

Double-dummy you can make by winning opening lead in N-hand and leading a diamond, ducking into the W hand (if E plays K, win A and then duck diamond). Since E has no trump to return, you make the contract with two spade ruffs, 5 trumps, 1 diamond and 2 clubs.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 09:54

View Postsner66, on 2011-October-20, 09:45, said:

Yes, depending on skill level of opponents you might try to duck a spade immediately and hope they don't continue trumps. You can then ruff TWO spades and make on a 3-3 diamond split.

GIB's play is based on dealing possible hands and then performing double dummy analysis. So it assumes the opponents can see all the hands and play perfectly, it will never play for a defensive error.

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Posted 2011-October-20, 10:02

View Postsner66, on 2011-October-20, 09:45, said:

Double-dummy you can make by winning opening lead in N-hand and leading a diamond, ducking into the W hand (if E plays K, win A and then duck diamond).

Wouldn't W simply lead to East's AJ, allowing East to lead the second round of ?
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Posted 2011-October-20, 10:09

My plan was to:
1) Win , irrelevant where.
2) LOSE .
3) Expect return. Win in North. Upon seeing the bad split, my plan is screwed, but the rest of it was...
4) Ruff .
5&6) Cash AK, throwing two .
7) A.
8) LOSE
9) If they don't cash , which would be fine by me, I ruff return.
10) Draw "last" trump.
11) LOSE second , hopefully crashing their last two honors.
12) Ruff return.
13) Cash 13th .

So, this wins when are 3-2 and are 3-3. Not great odds, but that's life. What was GIB playing for when he pitched a diamond on A at trick 2?
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