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Quickie Poll from last night

Poll: What's your call? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call?

  1. Pass (9 votes [45.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.00%

  2. 2 Clubs (relay to 2 diamonds) and Pass (8 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  3. 2 Clubs (relay to 2 Diamonds) and 3 Diamonds (Invitational) (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  4. 2 Spades (Range Ask - used to invite 3N) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2004-October-06, 11:24

First Board of the night. MP's, NS Vul. Partner opens 1N.

You are playing a 12-14 NT with Keri.



2 forces 2 where you can play it there. Or you can use 2 to start an invitational sequence with 6 diamonds. 2 is a range ask to find out if pard holds a min or max.

This post has been edited by pclayton: 2004-October-06, 17:27

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Posted 2004-October-06, 11:47

Did my partner open, or is it just my turn? ;) Pass
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Posted 2004-October-06, 12:51

I bid 2C and pass 2D. When the minor is weakish better not to try for 3NT.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 17:28

Free, on Oct 6 2004, 09:47 AM, said:

Did my partner open, or is it just my turn? :) Pass

Yes Frederick your partner opened 1N. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Original post was edited so it it clearer now.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 17:47

i passed 1nt.. let them guess, i've had worse defensive hands... the downside is i'd have to come in at 3d if i decided to balance, but i can't see it happening
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Posted 2004-October-07, 00:43

luke warm, on Oct 6 2004, 11:47 PM, said:

i passed 1nt.. let them guess, i've had worse defensive hands... the downside is i'd have to come in at 3d if i decided to balance, but i can't see it happening

You could try to buy it it 2, then compete with a X if they compete. That keeps open the option of playing in 3, but also the option of catching them for a penalty if eg partner is 4423.

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Posted 2004-October-07, 01:24

2C and pass 2D. Is this a trick question?
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Posted 2004-October-07, 01:38

pclayton, on Oct 6 2004, 12:24 PM, said:

First Board of the night. MP's, NS Vul. Partner opens 1N.

You are playing a 12-14 NT with Keri.



2 forces 2 where you can play it there. Or you can use 2 to start an invitational sequence with 6 diamonds. 2 is a range ask to find out if pard holds a min or max.

If my partner doesn't have diamonds, we're going to have a hell of a time beating the 120 I expect to get at 1NT. If my partner does have diamonds, there's a small chance that the opponents will let us play it at 1NT but zero chance they'll let us play 2.

Here's the two auctions I'm expecting most:
1NT P P X
...P ?

1NT P 2C P
.2D P ..P X
...P ?

I think the first auction makes it much tougher for the opponents than the second one.
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Posted 2004-October-07, 03:29

Your side has 22-24 points. No way they're going to balance a 2D bid. And if they do, so much the better. You (or pard) can either bid 3D or double them.
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Posted 2004-October-07, 03:47

No game here, i want to play 2...so 2 is my bid. Pass ?? NEVER


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Posted 2004-October-07, 03:54

EricK, on Oct 7 2004, 08:43 AM, said:

luke warm, on Oct 6 2004, 11:47 PM, said:

i passed 1nt.. let them guess, i've had worse defensive hands... the downside is i'd have to come in at 3d if i decided to balance, but i can't see it happening

You could try to buy it it 2, then compete with a X if they compete. That keeps open the option of playing in 3, but also the option of catching them for a penalty if eg partner is 4423.

Eric

this makes sense...
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Posted 2004-October-07, 05:40

MP I pass. We have 22-24. No need to try game too hard in MP. Playing in D scores more only if you can make 4D and you can make only 1N. I pass.

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Posted 2004-October-07, 09:21

Thanks all for participating. Just about what I figured; a close vote between pass and transfer. Echoed my schizoid thinking at the table. Inviting game is silly.

I transferred to 2. At this vulnerability, I was quietly hoping they'd balance with 2 of a major which I would saw off.

Pard held:



But: diamonds didn't break. Opponents banged down the AK and ducked their A later. +130 was a nice score. At least +120 is available is they don't find the club lead in NT. If they do, +90 is about the limit. If diamonds are splitting, obviously this hand makes +150 or +400.

At other tables the bidding started 1 - 1N - 2 - 3...now some passed and some probed for 3N which they played (-50 or -100).

I think the actual hand is an unusual layout. Give partner a more typical: KJxx, Axx, Kx, Qxxx, and diamonds is a big winner.

By the way, I think transferring to diamonds is absolutely clear at IMPs.
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