[dwar0123]

I'm the only one that bid 1h followed by 6d. My reasoning was that with 13 spades and 24 points outstanding there was no way it was going to be passed out and this was the best way to describe the hand.

Is 2 clubs always the right bid with a hand like this, if so, how do you describe such a 2 suited monster, especially if the opponents start interfering. Most tables did open 2clubs but ended up in 5-6 hearts going down or 6spades by west doubled and making an overtrick.

[Fluffy]

2♣ is always wrong, good opening.

The problem is if you should leap to 7♦ or just to 6. I think 7 is ok.

2♣ won't help you at all, next you will have only 1 bid availe and can't show both suits.

[antonylee]

It all depends on your partner and your opponents. If you are sure that it's not going to be passed out, which sounds more than reasonable (e.g. because you have the agreement of aggressive responses or because you know the opponents are "normal" club players -- sorry I've played to many 199ers :-)) then 1♥ then 6♦ looks fine. Actually even 7♦ don't seem that hard to find on a slower auction (find big ♦ fit without a ♥ fit, blast to 7♦)

[semeai]

dwar0123, on 2011-September-23, 19:13, said:

Is 2 clubs always the right bid with a hand like this

No.

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how do you describe such a 2 suited monster

As you did.

[Zelandakh]

Where's Ben? Is this not a MisIry hand?

The answer to your final question is that you can define the hand very well if you have certain agreements in place. Otherwise opening 1H and either leaping to slam or, if the opps let you, going slow and making forcing bids to get a red suit preference seem reasonable. To be honest, asking for bidding advice on any hand with 13 cards in 2 suits or any 9 card suit is rarely going to improve your game greatly. Just bid it as you see it and move on.

[VM1973]

The only surprising thing is that west didn't bid 7♣

[JLOGIC]

Don't worry, you'll never have a hand like this again in your entire life!

[inquiry]

JLOGIC, on 2011-September-24, 07:03, said:

Don't worry, you'll never have a hand like this again in your entire life!

True, as long as you don't play in "ghoulash" events online, which suspect this might have been.

I can't use bridgebrowser to do statistics etc because it finds sooooo many of these hands in tournaments on bbo, but not in main room.

This is a misiry hand. This is a two suiter, with "two losers" by Misiry standards. I would open 2nt (club preempt or strong two suiter with hearts and either spades or diamonds as a second suit). West will bid 3S and east 4S i guess. So when i make my next bid, i would probably lie through my teeth (based on their known fit) and say i have a red two suiter with no loser. The logic being that we must have a fit in one of them (partner didn't support clubs, they have huge fit in spades). At worse we might need a diamond hook (if partner has long hearts and only three diamonds). if partner has long diamonds, we are golden. .

[whereagles]

Look, this is really simple:

2♣ any
x♥ any
6/7♦

depending on how lucky you feel.

[tolvyrj]

This is a common topic, is it wise to open GF 2♣ with 2-suited hand. There r members in both schools, but the idea IMO is that with 7-6 hand u r without defence if opps starts to pre-empt and now u cant really count on prds penalty dbls, s/he expects u to have more. Like here where they r cold in 7 ♠.
What if 1 ♥ has been left for the final contract; well this is not a perfect world .

[dwar0123]

Thanks for the responses!

7♦ didn't occur to me, but given how there is no lay of the hand that my partner could be expected to raise it to 7 and how many hands partner could have that would make 7 cold, I can see the logic behind it.

I didn't redouble out of fear they would run to spades or clubs

The hand occurred in BBO's competitive room and no I don't think I will ever see such a hand again, more the reason to enjoy talking about it now!

[cloa513]

dwar0123, on 2011-September-23, 19:13, said:

I'm the only one that bid 1h followed by 6d. My reasoning was that with 13 spades and 24 points outstanding there was no way it was going to be passed out and this was the best way to describe the hand.

Is 2 clubs always the right bid with a hand like this, if so, how do you describe such a 2 suited monster, especially if the opponents start interfering. Most tables did open 2clubs but ended up in 5-6 hearts going down or 6spades by west doubled and making an overtrick.

Partner has to bid 7 clubs straight.

[kenrexford]

Funny hand. West screwed the pooch not starting with Michaels, which allows West to place the contract in 7♠ in the end.