[luke warm]

oh hell, you're right... i saw double

time to get to walgreens for some new glasses

[helium]

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 05:36 AM, said:

I am so sorry, I made a mistake on the hadn, this is teh real problem:

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are u sure this is the right hand? i cant see any way to make this

[inquiry]

helium, on Oct 7 2004, 08:03 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 05:36 AM, said:

I am so sorry, I made a mistake on the hadn, this is teh real problem:

Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown

♠ AKQ3 ♥   ♦ 8765432 ♣ AK ♠ 97 ♥ J97532 ♦ KQJ109 ♣   ♠ J8642 ♥ 10864 ♦   ♣ 10943 ♠ 105 ♥ AKQ ♦ A ♣ QJ87652

are u sure this is the right hand? i cant see any way to make this

I think you missed the point... you are to find the defense that defeats any line declearer plays.

[luke warm]

evidently he means that in addition to no way to make it, there's no way to allow it to be made

if east throws the deuce of spades on the first diamond, then it makes... outside of that i see no other way

[inquiry]

luke warm, on Oct 8 2004, 08:00 AM, said:

evidently he means that in addition to no way to make it, there's no way to allow it to be made

if east throws the deuce of spades on the first diamond, then it makes... outside of that i see no other way

If EAST throws a heart, it also makes. If East throws a club, it also makes, if East throws the spade JACK it also makes, so in fact, EAST has to discard at trick one the Spade 8, 6, or 4 or else it will make. Quite a small difference between he can't throw only the spade 2 or else it makes. But really, the first problem is more interesting than the second.


Ben

[mila85]

Hi,

I think I have a solution of original 6♥.

Spoiler

Ruff diamond, play 4 hearts throwing high spades from dummy, club to A and spade back to 9...

It seems easy to me. Or is there any problem?

Mila

btw My first post here.

[inquiry]

Welcome mila,

Your solution is perfect.. and for a first post to use hidden text, very impressive too. :-) A nice first post... hope you have many, many more.

Ben

[Brandal]

inquiry, on Oct 8 2004, 07:35 AM, said:

luke warm, on Oct 8 2004, 08:00 AM, said:

evidently he means that in addition to no way to make it, there's no way to allow it to be made

if east throws the deuce of spades on the first diamond, then it makes... outside of that i see no other way

If EAST throws a heart, it also makes. If East throws a club, it also makes, if East throws the spade JACK it also makes, so in fact, EAST has to discard at trick one the Spade 8, 6, or 4 or else it will make. Quite a small difference between he can't throw only the spade 2 or else it makes. But really, the first problem is more interesting than the second.


Ben

I don't see how east throwing a heart gives the contract.

I want to know

[xx1943]

Brandal, on Oct 10 2004, 12:44 PM, said:

I don't see how east throwing a heart gives the contract.

I want to know

Hi
Draw 3 rounds of hearts and look at the hiddden solution from MILA85 of the original hand.
Cheers
Al

[Brandal]

xx1943, on Oct 10 2004, 06:35 AM, said:

Brandal, on Oct 10 2004, 12:44 PM, said:

I don't see how east throwing a heart gives the contract.

I want to know 

Hi
Draw 3 rounds of hearts and look at the hiddden solution from MILA85 of the original hand.
Cheers
Al

I thought they were 2 different problems?

surely the cards look different to me on the 6 H contract

what do you discard on 3 times hearts?

[luke warm]

i was confused on the hands also... but in the 6H one, trump the diamond lead, lead out the rest of your trumps and throw all the top spades, lead a club to the ace and lead your low spade toward the 9.. east has to win but he's endplayed... if he doesn't win the 10, you lose one spade at the end