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Negative Double on solid 7 card suit what is the difference over bidding it

#1 User is offline   pigpenz 

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Posted 2011-September-02, 19:30



what is the advantage of this type of double? Is it to see wether or not
a human will trust GIB's bidding? One player jumped to 5♣ over the double.
Matchpoint wise on this hand 3♠x-2 was the golden ring....but 4♥ directly
vs double by 4♥ was is the difference in hand types for GIB? Is one slam invitational and
the other not?
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Posted 2011-September-02, 19:44

For humans, this bidding sequence would show maybe a good 5 to mediocre 6 card heart suit, with some tolerance for another strain, whereas a direct 4H would be a hand more certain hearts is the correct strain. On the above hand I'd definitely bid 4H directly.
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Posted 2011-September-02, 21:26

View Postsemeai, on 2011-September-02, 19:44, said:

For humans, this bidding sequence would show maybe a good 5 to mediocre 6 card heart suit, with some tolerance for another strain, whereas a direct 4H would be a hand more certain hearts is the correct strain. On the above hand I'd definitely bid 4H directly.

I would always bid 4♥ also, unless there is something behind GIB system i am missing
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Posted 2011-September-02, 22:19

If you're going to report GIB bugs, it would be nice if you gave the developers a complete picture of the situation. Are you noting that GIB's bidding doesn't match the explanations, or are you suggesting that GIB's system is silly? In this case, I presume it's the latter.


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Posted 2011-September-03, 03:32

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-September-02, 22:19, said:

If you're going to report GIB bugs, it would be nice if you gave the developers a complete picture of the situation. Are you noting that GIB's bidding doesn't match the explanations, or are you suggesting that GIB's system is silly? In this case, I presume it's the latter.



I'd say its neither rather understanding the GIB bidding strategy.
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Posted 2011-September-03, 10:08

maybe when we should start a forum on just GIB!
if you read the question there was no reporting of a bug, just asking what is behind the bids it made, its seems to
me the question was pretty obvious english.....what is the difference between 4♥ direct and double pull to 4♥.
If you dont like it then ask the moderators to start a forum on just discussion of GIB
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Posted 2011-September-03, 12:38



well ran into this one today, so I guess it has nothing to do with the quality of the suit
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Posted 2011-September-04, 16:07

It would be helpful to see GIB's description of a direct 4♥ bid.

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Posted 2011-September-05, 08:50

Is there a way to set up hands where you can put in bidding and see what the bids would mean?
Not that it would really help, i think most people would bid four hears with both nands for sure on first one.

On practice tables for bidding can you put in hand types for bidding with GIB?
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