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Raising 4-card suit with only 2

#1 User is offline   barmar 

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Posted 2011-September-02, 00:08

I can't provide the hand, because it was an unfinished board in a Robot Reward tourney. GIB had an opening hand with 5=2=5=1 shape. The auction went 1♠ - 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥ - 3♥. With human partners I'd play that 2♥ bid as 4th Suit Forcing, but GIB explained it as 5+C 4+H.

I had 19 HCP, so I jumped to 6♥ (it was the last hand and I was in last place, so nothing really mattered). I wouldn't have been surprised to see 3 hearts in dummy, but Qx threw me.

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Posted 2011-September-02, 05:25

2h must be a rare very rare bid.



for starters if 2h is a rare bid lets not worry about it ...it is rare.....

in any case I try and make a natural bid over i t


3h =4card h suit

akxxx...xxxx...akqx.....void


1s=2c
2d=2h
3h=?
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Posted 2011-September-02, 09:22

Shouldnt be rare cause rebid of 2♠ could only be 5cards
Cant 2♦ be temporizing bid with extras say 5332 hand... With values in ♦ and ♠......xxx♥
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Posted 2011-September-02, 13:02

I'm not sure why you need 2♦ as a temporizing bid when 2♠ is available.

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Posted 2011-September-02, 13:17

View Postbarmar, on 2011-September-02, 13:02, said:

I'm not sure why you need 2♦ as a temporizing bid when 2♠ is available.

As a way to show extras, like I said where all your values are in spades and diamonds
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Posted 2011-September-02, 13:34

I've never heard of that style. It seems to me that you can do this later, by making a slam try in diamonds once you've found a fit, rather than distort your shape. There are times when you have to reverse into a 3-card minor, to establish a forcing auction. But once partner has made a game forcing 2/1 bid, there's not usually any need to confuse him.

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Posted 2011-September-05, 21:49

Much easier (one would think) auction....
1 club by robot, 1 spade by me (with 4 in the suit), 2 spades by robot. Explanation said robot has 4 cards in spaces. Robot showed up with 2 small spades and 7 cards in clubs. ARRGGGHHHH!!!!
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