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Why on earth is double now described as showing rebiddable spades? I thought GIB plays support doubles...
(In practice, I bid 3♣ and we got to a making 6♥ when GIB rebid 3♦, but it could have been easier.)
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Why is this a penalty double? And what am I supposed to bid?
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Posted 2011-July-11, 17:25
Why on earth is double now described as showing rebiddable spades? I thought GIB plays support doubles...
(In practice, I bid 3♣ and we got to a making 6♥ when GIB rebid 3♦, but it could have been easier.)
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Posted 2011-July-11, 17:41
why not bid the hand like you were going to in an uncompetitive auction? surely 2NT has the same meaning except that you damn sure promised a ♠ stopper .
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Posted 2011-July-11, 21:45
If, as you say GIB plays support DBL, then it should show 3 card ♥ support.
One possibility is, perhaps support X do not apply thru 2♠ or perhaps not versus pre-empts, doesn't make much sense to me, but it's the best I can come up with.
One possibility is, perhaps support X do not apply thru 2♠ or perhaps not versus pre-empts, doesn't make much sense to me, but it's the best I can come up with.
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Posted 2011-July-11, 22:49
Most people only play support doubles if responder can rebid his suit on the 2 level. GIB presumably follows this style.
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Posted 2011-July-12, 14:02
barmar, on 2011-July-11, 22:49, said:
Most people only play support doubles if responder can rebid his suit on the 2 level. GIB presumably follows this style.
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Posted 2011-July-12, 14:46
When is Lurpoa finally going to be banned from upvoting?
Anyway, I don't care if it's not a support double - I just don't want it to be a penalty double!
Anyway, I don't care if it's not a support double - I just don't want it to be a penalty double!
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Posted 2011-July-12, 15:14
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Posted 2011-July-13, 21:33
If it's not a support double, and you don't want it to be penalty, what do you think it should be? Takeout isn't necessary, since there's only one unbid suit; partner should balance if he has it.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 01:48
barmar, on 2011-July-13, 21:33, said:
If it's not a support double, and you don't want it to be penalty, what do you think it should be? Takeout isn't necessary, since there's only one unbid suit; partner should balance if he has it.
What a narrow view of the word "takeout"! In my world, a takeout double would show the unbid suit (4+ D), some extra length in the suit I originally bid (4+ C) and tolerance for partner's suit (2-3 H).
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