[mgoetze]

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South deals, EW vulnerable. Which contract would you land in?

[han]

I think I would land in 6S. Here is a possible start:

1S - 2C
2H - 2S
3D - 3H
4C (serious slam interest, and must be a void since shortness was already known) - 5H
6C (two but no spade queen) - 6S

North is surely thinking about 7C but doesn't know that south is this powerful. He also has no way to involve south as this point, since that would risk having south bid 7S.

[Phil]

han, on 2011-June-28, 12:12, said:

I think I would land in 6S.

This surprises me a little.

Might your auction start 1♠ - 2♣?

[han]

Sorry Phil, added an auction to my post not knowing that you had quoted me.

The auction I gave is in what I consider "standard" 2/1, not my own system. Playing with my regular partner north could relay and find Axxxx Axxx AKxx - but no diamond queen, with this 5440 shape we don't have room to find out about the heart queen.

Not to say that I would relay with the north hand btw, I would not.

[Cyberyeti]

Our auction would be:

1♠-3♣ (rock crusher with ♣, or 5+ good ♣, 4+ decent spades, opening hand +)
3♦(non minimum, ♦)-4♥(the ♠/♣ type, void ♥, exclusion with ♠ as trumps)
5♣(2 w/o)-5♥
6♦-?

Now 6♠ and 7♣ are both in the frame. 6♠ is known to be laydown without 4 trumps offside, you know partner has ♠A(J/x)xxx plus the ♦AK(Q/x)x with maybe a 5th one. If he has the Q♦ or the spades come in 7♣ is laydown assuming the clubs run. ♥AK will also do you, a 5th diamond also gives you chances, the 10♦ does too. Depends if you want to gamble, but realistically 7♣ is close to 50:50 if partner has the worst possible hand, so I think I'd probably bid it.

[mgoetze]

Cyberyeti, on 2011-June-28, 14:28, said:

Depends if you want to gamble, but realistically 7♣ is close to 50:50 if partner has the worst possible hand, so I think I'd probably bid it.

And your partner would surely correct to 7♠, wouldn't he?

[Flameous]

Playing natural, I'd bid 3♣ fitjump and follow it with 6♣ bid. I'd hope partner gets the idea.

With some strong club action:

1♣ - 1♦ (16+ without primary ♦ unless GF, 0-6 or 12+)
2♠ - 2NT (16-18, singlesuited with spades or 544, relay)
3NT - 4♣ (5440, relay)
4NT - 5♣ (12 AKQ pts, relay)
5♦ - 5♥ (Odd nbr of kings, relay)
5NT - ? (1/3 in spades, 0/2 in hearts)

So now you know of Axxxx AKxx AQxx or red suits other way around. No idea about Js or tens though. I guess I'd pick 6NT as I got it rightsided
And of course if I needed the swing, I'd go for 7NT, not any suit contract. With all the possible squeeze chances, it might be the overall winner to bid anyways.

[Cyberyeti]

mgoetze, on 2011-June-28, 15:16, said:

And your partner would surely correct to 7♠, wouldn't he?

Actually not in this case, it's not that uncommon to bid like this if the K/Q♠ are cards I'd like to know about for a club contract, 7♣ is a command not a suggestion, I have taken command of the auction, I may be lying and not have long spades at all if I have say Axx, void, xx, 8 solid I'd bid like this.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

mgoetze, on 2011-June-28, 11:53, said:

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South deals, EW vulnerable. Which contract would you land in?

1S        - Jac2NT ( modified for opener to show minimum, extras, balanced, shortness )

3H!( ♣-shortness w/"extras" )

- 4C! ( ♣Ace )

4D ( mixed cue )

- 4H ( mixed cue )

5NT ( GSF; thinking the ♥-cue was the K )

- 6S ( only have 1 of 3 top honors )

[whereagles]

Probably end up in 6♠, likely with some mix-ups in between LOL.

[nige1]

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[nige1]

mgoetze wrote
South deals, EW vulnerable. Which contract would you land in?

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Cyberyeti, on 2011-June-28, 14:28, said:

Depends if you want to gamble, but realistically 7♣ is close to 50:50 if partner has the worst possible hand, so I think I'd probably bid it.

mgoetze, on 2011-June-28, 15:16, said:

And your partner would surely correct to 7♠, wouldn't he?

If, somehow, South manages to reach 7♠, perhaps North can correct to 7N?

[Cyberyeti]

nige1, on 2011-June-29, 04:06, said:

mgoetze wrote
South deals, EW vulnerable. Which contract would you land in?

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If, somehow, South manages to reach 7♠, perhaps North can correct to 7N?

And will of course find spades 2-2 with the honours split, clubs 5-1 and the diamond finesse failing

But yes, is an obvious correction.

[Zelandakh]

The South hand looks like an upgrade to 18+ for me...so

1C = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1H = 4+ spades, GF
1S = relay, usually 18+
... - 2H = 4 spades, 5+ clubs
2S = relay
... - 4C = 7+ clubs, heart void, extras
4D = relay
... - 4NT = 4 controls
5NT = Q ask
... - 6D = CQ, not DQ
6S = SQ?
... - P = sorry

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

lets see, we play a 2/1 system, without a lot of gadgets, that are considered
standard.

1S - 2NT (1)
4C (2) - 5H (3)
6C (4) - 6S (5)

(1) Jacoby, 3H as a splinter would be nice, but we play 3H in this seq.
as showing a inv. strength single suiter, we dont promise 4 cards,
which would help later
(2) Shortage, more than min.
(3) a Void, we dont play Voidwood, the club shortage is not nice, but
we have a running suit and at least 4 discards
(4) First round control , it would be great to have 5NT in this seq. as RKCB
(5) nothing more to add

With kind regards
Marlowe

[FrancesHinden]

I'd like to get to 7C, but I'm pretty certain I'd end in 6S.
Looking at the North hand opposite a 1S opening he can see a very easy route to 7S opposite AAQ so will probably go the route that can find out if that is opposite. This will have the bonus side effect of playing in spades opposite, say, AQxxx Ax Kxxx xx when you want partner to declare.

[Free]

I'd end up in 6♠, all keys but <10 trumps missing the Q. 7♣ is great because South has ♦T, a card I can't find.

[mohitz]

The play was very interesting too. In one of the SFs, Lev and Pepsi reached 7S on a uncontested auction. Pepsi's LHO, Sundarram led small spade, small, Queen, Ace. Pepsi played second round of spade, when the nine appeared. What would you play?

If it matters, Lev-Pepsi were 14 ahead at the end of first 14 bd segment. This was the 5th board of the 2nd and last segment and the first 4 boards at your table were nothing special.

Btw, Zia commentating for the first time on BBO said he has a rule "Never lead a trump against grand slam"!

EDIT: Sorry for the hijack

This post has been edited by mohitz: 2011-July-04, 13:54

[mgoetze]

Ah, I was watching the 7♠ table in the other match, where the play was not so interesting. Funny how half the tables got to 7♠ uncontested, with noone here admitting they would end up there.

Another thing I remember about this hand was that 7♣ was on despite a 5-1 trump break.

[kenrexford]

Rather interesting development, as I would bid this.

Opener: 1♠
Responder: 2♣ (real clubs or a spade fit)
Opener: 2♥
Responder: 2♠ (spades agreed)
Opener: 2NT (not two of the top three spades)
Responder: 3♣ (two of the top three clubs)
Opener: 3♦ (first or second round control)

At this point, Responder might blast Exclusion or RKCB, take control, and place this in 7♣. Alternatively...

Responder: 3NT?!?!

Responder will have just denied any heart honor higher than the Jack, cannot have a diamond higher than the Queen, and has denied two of the top three spades, and yet he has shown serious slam interest. With just the spade King and all three top clubs, he could bid 4♣. So, clubs must be a trick source. Opener could try 4♦ (no club card obviously but better than simple control in diamonds), and NOW Responder could take control.