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Getting to the right slam Poznan open teams SF board 19

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Posted 2011-July-05, 06:16

Why would you want to end up at 7♣?
Isn't it strictly worse than 7NT?

I counted some odds and it seems that with the info I had in my auction, I should bid 7NT (assuming other table is at least in 6 a good part of the time)
Half the time partner has AK AQ in reds, when I'm in a 70% slam. Opposite just AQ AK I'm in about 40% slam with the extra chance of squeeze in spades and a red suit. Could also have ♠J to make it 52%. Add ♦T and I'm again in 70% slam.

If clubs were declared from the same side as NT, it might be the winner cause I'd have the extra chance of having ♥AQJ for ruffing finesse.
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Posted 2011-July-05, 13:13

View PostFlameous, on 2011-July-05, 06:16, said:

Why would you want to end up at 7♣?
Isn't it strictly worse than 7NT?

Why? You can ruff out ♥Kxx in 7♣.
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Posted 2011-July-06, 03:50

In 7NT you are not doomed if clubs are 5-1/6-0 cause spades can still break. But yeah, I guess it's quite close.
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Posted 2011-July-06, 06:32

View PostFlameous, on 2011-July-06, 03:50, said:

In 7NT you are not doomed if clubs are 5-1/6-0 cause spades can still break. But yeah, I guess it's quite close.


Doomed?


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Posted 2011-July-06, 06:56

I'm not sure this is a great example, but yes it can make without the clubs, but is it better than 7♣. You have to read this one too, it might not be unreasonable to simply take the diamond finesse when W painlessly pitches 2 diamonds. You also may (but prob won't) get the spades wrong.

Is getting a layout where you can make 7N but not 7♣ more likely than ♥Kxx either side with the ♦ finesse wrong for example.
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Posted 2011-July-06, 07:16

View Postmgoetze, on 2011-July-06, 06:32, said:

Doomed?



West gets triple squeezed on the 4th ♠... So no, not doomed. :P
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