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meaning of 2 Spades 2/1 ACBL

#1 User is offline   dickiegera 

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Posted 2011-June-10, 21:19

In this auction what is the meaning of 2♠?

1♣-P-1♥-1♠
2♠

Double would be support double showing 3 card Heart support
and 2♥ would be a raise showing 4 Hearts and minimum opening
and 3♥ would be a raise showing 4 Hearts and a better than minimum maybe 15-17 pts

What is 2 Spade bid?
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Posted 2011-June-10, 21:32

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I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2011-June-10, 21:50

2S most likes strong hand GF and ♥ fit or something else,but one thing is confirmed that 2♠ should GF.
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Posted 2011-June-11, 04:11

Maybe it's a GF Hand with 6+ ♣ (as 3♣ is invitational) but I also could imagine a GF ♥ raise or a strong NT wihout values in ♠
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Posted 2011-June-13, 02:30

View Postdickiegera, on 2011-June-10, 21:19, said:

In this auction what is the meaning of 2♠?

1♣-P-1♥-1♠
2♠

Double would be support double showing 3 card Heart support
and 2♥ would be a raise showing 4 Hearts and minimum opening
and 3♥ would be a raise showing 4 Hearts and a better than minimum maybe 15-17 pts

What is 2 Spade bid?


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I do not think this has anything to do with ACBL SAYC: no support double in SAYC.
In BWS2001: yes, in this situation, support double applies. So basically, 2S denies a 3 card support. It also denies the willingness to play 1SX.
So probably long ♣ without ♠ stopper, but could be a strong (slam ambitions) GF hand with ♥.
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Posted 2011-June-14, 16:17

I'd think it shows a strong hand which now lacks clear direction, e.g. ♠xxxx ♥AQ ♦KQx ♣AQJx. And yes, if playing support doubles, it will usually deny as many as three hearts.
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Posted 2011-June-15, 00:05

View PostFoxx, on 2011-June-14, 16:17, said:

I'd think it shows a strong hand which now lacks clear direction, e.g. ♠xxxx ♥AQ ♦KQx ♣AQJx. And yes, if playing support doubles, it will usually deny as many as three hearts.





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Yes, this is also a hand on which, playing support doubles, I would bid 2♠. If I keep silent on this round, my partner will not understand my further bidding, on his possible double or other bid.
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