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Posted 2011-June-08, 01:05

lead is 8 hts-J-K-A......

is this makeable--is it one off--is it 2 off.
if so what can opps make-if anything?
never give up hope

I presume after winning ace hts we test
the water with a&k spades on k spades
East shows out mmmmmmmmmm 1off?
if ace clubs right?
continue with answers.
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Posted 2011-June-08, 01:08

8 ht lead

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Posted 2011-June-08, 08:54

4 lol
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Posted 2011-June-08, 08:56

Yes, it depends on the A being onside. Must hope to score 6 spades, 3 hearts and a club.
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Posted 2011-June-09, 21:38

the reason i posted this is
the club ace wrong--but i now went 2 down
the 8 hts is the clue--6 spades-3 hts,
now club posn lead and play small.
rh opp stuffed-you go down 1 only,
any other play 2 down
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Posted 2011-June-10, 08:22

View Postpirate22, on 2011-June-09, 21:38, said:

the reason i posted this is
the club ace wrong--but i now went 2 down
the 8 hts is the clue--6 spades-3 hts,
now club posn lead and play small.
rh opp stuffed-you go down 1 only,
any other play 2 down


I may or may not understand exactly what you're saying, but I believe the correct line is to win the lead, pull trumps, then lead again. They may or may not duck a few times, and hopefully our 9 will be an entry if they do duck.

In the case that I can't pitch a loser on the long immediately, I have to rely on the A being onside to get an entry to pitch a club on the now good .

I'm not really understanding your line, though. It sounds like you did something and played a club and LHO played low and you think you should play the 8 to put RHO on lead. Unfortunately this doesn't accomplish anything unless they worked hard to strip him of exits, and it's a big problem when the A is onside. But if that is what happened, it's a good point. LHO must be aware that his partner is going to be endplayed and he must play a higher than the 8 on dummy that partner can duck .

Anyway, I think this is a contract just on a finesse; not really sure what is expert or world class about it. Sometimes even the experts go down 2!
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