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YAP (yet another preempt)

#1 User is offline   mike gill 

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Posted 2011-May-27, 08:19



This was matchpoints.
What would you do if RHO opened 4♥ instead?
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Posted 2011-May-27, 09:11

I don't like it but I would pass over both 3 and 4♥, X is takeout for me.
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Posted 2011-May-27, 09:13

Easy pass.
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Posted 2011-May-27, 11:50

I can't really see what you can do other than pass (unless you want to try a sporting 3N over 3♥) in either case, partner presumably has xxxx, AKx, Kxxxx, x and you were making 7♦.
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Posted 2011-May-28, 11:20

FWIW at our table partner opened 4♥ and RHO made an "Alice in Wonderland" double on the hand in question.

I was foolishly tempted to redouble holding ♠Q8643 ♥AQT ♦KJ7 ♣QJ, which would have been -1

But LHO, holding 5 spades took me off the hook with a 4S bid, which I was able to double for several down and a top.
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Posted 2011-May-28, 14:42

Easy pass over both 3H and 4H.
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Posted 2011-May-29, 01:21

Sometimes you have to X with only 2 spades but you must always have extras, this one has no extras when you compute the flaws.

You have the Jx in H and no spots + you are ruffing with a master trump this hand really has no extras.

If Lho open 2H and I X partner bid 3S i would easily pass.
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Posted 2011-May-29, 14:38

Over 3♥, 3NT. Good luck me.

Over 4♥, shoot RHO.
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Posted 2011-May-30, 02:28

pass, I can't do much else that won't result in a disaster...
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Posted 2011-May-31, 08:56

Ok ok, I wanted to see how insane it was to double 3♥ pretending you had a third spade. Anyway, the answer as expected seems to be "pretty insane." FWIW I thought it was clear to pass 4♥. At the table I did double (mostly because I wasn't up to passing in tempo) and partner bid 4♠. This might have worked until the 5-1 break.
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