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Posted 2011-April-18, 08:55

You hold--sp Q6--J986--KJ42--K75 and your partner is
dealer and opens 1cl! ply 15-17 n/t 5 card m and 1d=min 4 cards.

next opp bids 1 d. and if we removed the Q of sp for the 7.
would this affect ones choice of bids.....
suggestions with and without the q spades.....
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Posted 2011-April-18, 09:25

I bid 1 either way.....
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Posted 2011-April-19, 01:58

1 wtp
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Posted 2011-April-19, 02:39

1NT with the actual hand, 1 without the Q.

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Posted 2011-April-19, 02:41

View Postrhm, on 2011-April-19, 02:39, said:

1NT with the actual hand, 1 without the Q.

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Same here
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Posted 2011-April-19, 02:48

View PostFree, on 2011-April-19, 01:58, said:

1 wtp

Partner may be unable to bid notrump and a raise with 3 cards in s will look normal to him. Now I do not mind 4-3 major suit fits, but this one does not look right to me.
Even if partner holds 4 cards in s he may have a balanced hand and notrump might well be better.
I can see the play starting with a lead followed by ruffs.

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Posted 2011-April-19, 22:41

For a moment i thought i was going mad.............
Yes bid 1 ht at least it gets us there.but
I really prefer a x {Neg}8+ points any shape.if opener bids
1 spade now one can bid 1n/t- my partner bid 1n/t immediate
that STUFFED ME. and then passed my 2cl.........

openers hand 10982--AKQ6--Void--AQJ103. s/h/d/c/
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Posted 2011-April-20, 01:45

View Postrhm, on 2011-April-19, 02:48, said:

Partner may be unable to bid notrump and a raise with 3 cards in s will look normal to him. Now I do not mind 4-3 major suit fits, but this one does not look right to me.
Even if partner holds 4 cards in s he may have a balanced hand and notrump might well be better.
I can see the play starting with a lead followed by ruffs.

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I see your point, but isn't opener very likely to hold 4 (or 6) when he has less than 4? Raising on a 3 card would be quite rare I think. (anyone up for a simulation? :D )
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Posted 2011-April-20, 03:33

View Postpirate22, on 2011-April-19, 22:41, said:

For a moment i thought i was going mad.............
Yes bid 1 ht at least it gets us there.but
I really prefer a x {Neg}8+ points any shape.if opener bids
1 spade now one can bid 1n/t- my partner bid 1n/t immediate
that STUFFED ME. and then passed my 2cl.........

openers hand 10982--AKQ6--Void--AQJ103. s/h/d/c/


I think the error is not on the first round of bidding. Your suggestion of employing a neg. DBL without support for both majors only works well if the bidding remains low. But if opener has to bid at higher levels (say after raises) this is not so comfortable.
Your 2 rebid was not exactly enterprising with your 3.5 loser hand. 2 looks to me like a better description of your hand. Having exulted requirements for reverses has its disadvantages and puts a lot of strain on the lower level bids. If 2 is the last positive score your side can make you will never be allowed to play there anyway.
Your partner's pass over 2 is even worse. Your partner can also see that if opener is minimum for his bidding, opponents will never let you play 2.
Passing 2 is an invitation to them finding their fit in or for advancer to give belated support for in a weak hand. He should either have bid 2 (my choice with a maximum 1NT response) or 3.
The former is more descriptive (opener has not denied 4 cards in ), the latter does a better job in shutting out opponents, who will often have a fit on this sequence.
Meanwhile if opener is not minimum, chances for 3NT must be excellent. As it happens 4 is best, but 3NT, not quite cold, looks excellent too.
Give opener one more card in instead of a and 3NT is still excellent.

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