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How to handle this hand

#21 User is offline   Chamaco 

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Posted 2004-September-09, 08:24

I think 1 followed by 4 fully describes the hand. Your bid, pard ;)
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Posted 2004-September-09, 08:45

spwdo, on Sep 9 2004, 02:14 PM, said:

Woud open 1, then rebid when i got chance, no harm in saying 3 or 4 if opps intervene , if hand belongs to opps with thats where we go, need something from partner to be able to have a game.

Well, partner has SOMETHING, so with silent opponents you surely bid a game.
Opening 1 you are going to play 4 in this case, with 1 maybe you would find 5, and with a club lead.... ;)
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Posted 2004-September-09, 09:50

The_Hog, on Sep 9 2004, 12:03 PM, said:

And so it goes
1D (2S) P (4S)

And now gentlemen? If you bid 5H I think you are a wanker - (there you are Richard; I used it first).

Had it gone
1H (2S) P (4S)
Would you feel more comfortable now with 5D?

(I play 4 handed and not 2 handed bridge).

After 1D (2S) P (4S) I bid 4NT (two-suited hand) and take out 5C into 5D to show this sort of hand.

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Posted 2004-September-10, 09:00

hrothgar, on Sep 9 2004, 06:45 AM, said:

jtfanclub, on Sep 9 2004, 09:13 AM, said:

 

>So if I open 2C, have I done something bad?

Bad isn't the word that I would use, but its close enough

1. You hand has nowhere near the defensive strength required for 2

2. You have a two suited hand. You should strive to avoid opening 2 any two-suited hand. Distorting strength and opening 2 with this subminimum is a loosing tactic.

3. If you want to overbid, whats wrong with reversing?

The ACBL defines 2C as 22hcp or 8 1/2 quick. When I think of 8 1/2 quick, I'm thinking of this hand. So in that way, it's not a distortion, unless I misunderstand their meaning.

Nor is it an exaggeration to say it needs little for game. Just the KH in a flat hand would likely be sufficient all by itself.

I'm not seriously considering 2C- I'm noting that this fits the stretched definiton the ACBL uses, and I'm wondering if anybody thinks it might be a right bid.

Sounds like not.
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Posted 2004-September-10, 13:54

Put me in the 1 camp. The general principle: a stronger hand should open the longer suit regardless of rank, a weaker hand should open the higher suit. This assumes we are talking about at least 5-5 distribution. In this case, I think the hand qualifies for a reverse.

P.S. On the auction above, After 1 2 2 I would bid 3NT. South now has the option of shooting it out in 3NT or going to 4 or 5 diamonds, depending on style.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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Posted 2004-September-10, 15:21

2C is more or less as bad as passing.
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Posted 2004-September-10, 17:49

Please note that I did not say I agreed with the 2 bid. :-)
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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Posted 2004-September-15, 21:05

The_Hog, on Sep 9 2004, 07:03 AM, said:

And so it goes
1D (2S) P (4S)

And now gentlemen?

Now, I say the auction didn't go my way.

On the other hand, if pard has something like:

A543
Q3
J3
AKQ32

which slam do I want to play in? And how do you play 6D after opening 1H?
I tend to lead fourth best - as opposed to the best suit, the second best suit, or the third best suit for our side
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