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#1 User is offline   morganc 

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Posted 2011-March-12, 02:52

Hand played on BBO. All players have expert status in their profile and sayc is agreed between NS.

Simple question, is 3♣ forcing and if so what do you bid?



Btw you are wellcome to comment on the opening bid, would you pass or open 1♦ with unknown partner (and unknown opponents)?

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Posted 2011-March-12, 08:35

I think partner has good hand with 4/6 in the blacks ( Sp/Cl )... trying to force to game.
I also think he is 1/2 in the reds ( Hts/Diam) .
Since 3NT seems to be out of the question, the question remaining is whether you can make 11 tricks in Cl.

You have nice honors in his suits.
You could bid 4C, but I think that could be passed in this auction.

I'd try 5C.
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Posted 2011-March-12, 09:48

View Postmorganc, on 2011-March-12, 02:52, said:

Hand played on BBO. All players have expert status in their profile and sayc is agreed between NS.

Simple question, is 3♣ forcing and if so what do you bid?



Btw you are wellcome to comment on the opening bid, would you pass or open 1♦ with unknown partner (and unknown opponents)?

Martin



1♦ is OK. Not a super-opening, but S cannot be blamed for opening.

3♣ is surely forcing. No idea what N could have.
At this stage I must assume that he has ♦ support, and he knows that I assume so (!).
S has really nothing to tell here, so: 3♦
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Posted 2011-March-12, 11:16

2H set up a game force, so 3C is forcing. I have nothing new to say, because I think I have already shown 6 diamonds, so I'll bid 3H.
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Posted 2011-March-12, 12:54

Ok, I chose to rebid 3♦ and partner bid 5♦. From the diagram you can see it had little play with opponents taking the first three tricks in hearts and another two in diamonds.




Actually I don't regret my 1♦ opening however I think it is hard not to land in a silly contract if you do so.

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Posted 2011-March-12, 13:57

It seems, unless you had a lucky accident, you were doomed to be in an unmakable game from the start --even with a reasonable auction.

As for North (or West, depending on which diagram is used) ---I don't see the point in making a negative double when after the 1♥ overcall he can bid 2c (one-round force) then show the lengths of the two suits AND game going strength with 2S next round.

By not doing so, North created confusion on your part as to what his hand could possibly be. Like I said, you weren't making game anyway...but might have been down only one in 5C or 3NT.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 11:54

3C is forcing.

I bid 3H - it is not 100% clear, but I would say 3H asks
for a half stopper.

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Posted 2011-March-13, 12:25

Doesn't responder's hand belong to another thread? [Not that bidding 2♣ would help on this hand]
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Posted 2011-March-13, 12:28

easy opening bid.

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Posted 2011-March-13, 14:24

I'd show half a stopper with 3♥, IMO partner has made the hand game forcing already.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 08:59

Bidding so far is fine.

3♣ is absolutely forcing.

I'd bid 3♥. I already told partner I haven't got anything to add so I'll add nothing again to the conversation, except the half stopper in ♥.
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Posted 2011-March-18, 04:06

3D is gross on ace-empty-sixth.
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Posted 2011-March-18, 04:42

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-March-12, 08:35, said:

I think partner has good hand with 4/6 in the blacks ( Sp/Cl )

I wonder why he wouldn't/didn't respond 2♣ with such a hand, following up with spades afterwards.
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Posted 2011-March-18, 05:03

View PostFluffy, on 2011-March-13, 14:24, said:

I'd show half a stopper with 3♥, IMO partner has made the hand game forcing already.


Yes, 3H looks an obvious bid now.
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